a friend of ours is jack antonoff, brilliant musician. i've known him for many years.at we happen to meet and we were having pizza with jack and a bunch of folks and she thought oh, apparently in her mind, she thought this is the dystopic version, the nightmare version of what my son would be. and that's my dream come true. that due to being my dream come true. she got a text from her -- i don't know. >> stephen: you got a text from her? so you have her phone number? >> mike: sure. or a burner. a burner of some kind. >> stephen: do you have your phone with you? you could text heard, jessie. >> mike: thought maybe i was being catfished. >> stephen: did she say hey, this is taylor swift? >> mike: yeah. >> stephen: i wouldn't believe that either. >> mike: that would be cool. who an excellent writer. she said the script of the video that's wonderful and very funny. fantastic. either way, it is sort of a win-win. i go, count me in. taylor swift or catfish person. and then we shot the video and i think it's a riot. it's super cool. to be a little part of a big super thing. >