now you, because jack bauer is so recognizable, is it still a role people recognize you for? and one of the all-time great bad asses, is there a certain expectation when they meet you that you'll match that? >> i don't know if people just can't pronounce kiefer and jack's a lot easier. i have been in a bar or two over the course of my life where someone's wanted to pick a fight because i played jack bauer. >> seth: that's fantastic. >> so i get that a lot. and i get, "i thought you were taller." >> seth: oh yeah, that's another one. >> so both of those, i actually as a good canadian boy, as you referenced to london, ontario, i just simply apologize to them. >> seth: there you go, you apologize for your height. [ applause ] now this is a story that i want confirmation on. >> twelve canadians. >> seth: there are twelve canadians, yes. [ cheers and applause ] >> awesome. >> seth: there was more but they didn't know if it was polite to interrupt. >> sorry! >> seth: yeah, sorry we clapped. [ light laughter ] story because the lonely island andy samberg, akiva schaffer, jorma tacco

so there is some jack bauer in there. >> so true. being here. [ cheers and applause ] kiefer sutherland, everybody. "forsaken" is in theatres and available on itunes and on demand starting tomorrow. we'll be right back with carice van houten. piano music. i'm glad you finally made it, dad. you have to experience this city. that's what you always say. you were right about the food. hi john. hey kevin. spent the day with an astronaut. one more. it's beautiful, isn't it? how about a baseball game next time? done! done. book priceless experiences around the globe with... ...your world mastercard. only at priceless.com. its sleek design... is mold-breaking. its intelligent drive systems... paradigm-shifting. its technology-filled cabin...jaw-dropping. its performance...breathtaking. its self-parking...and self-braking...show-stopping. the all-new glc. starting at $38,950. pain from your day can haunt you at night, don't let it. advil pm gives you the healing sleep you need, helping you fall asleep and stay asleep so your body can heal as

ever met jack bauer? [laughter] so, although there's truth in fiction as you know, i wanted to show a little bit of reality. taking that and moving into the realm of fiction, number one, the best written piece i think is david ignatius first article age of innocence. it was actually reviewed on the website which was unusual and i still remember one of the lines. the innocence of the novel but it's not fiction. it was based on names. >> host: and no relationship to the other code that was side was the furthest thing possible. but he was a remarkable officer and a station chief and david i think them slightly and when he was killed when the embassy was blown up, this isn't exactly a biography but it's close and i completely agree it really has given you a feel for what it's like to be an officer. >> guest: i teach at george mason and i can't talk much about covert action. i signed up about the book. that's the pros. in a more visual medium i will bring up two of them, one is homeland and it is my short summ

i mentioned there something -- been around the world talking to cias officers never met jack bauer never met jack ryan. [laughter] okay. >> even ryan. so -- and so although there's truth and search as you know, i've talked about forms of art. i wanted to show you a little bit of reality in terms of fear. now, taking that and now moving into the roam of search two or three examples. the best written piece on cia i think is actually the first article, agent of innocence. it was actually reviewed on the cia website, very unusual and i still rib one of the lines, agencies of innocence is a novel u tbus not good. so no relationship to the other farthest thing possible but bob was -- remarkable officer in station chief, and david i think, slightly but people knew him when he was killed when embassy blown up, no is not exactly a biography but it's close, an it really doses i completely agree it really does give you a feel for twhas like to be an officer. >> i teach at george mason i want to talk about covert action. i signed the book. we just talk about in the book that's pros. more visual i ha

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. >> it is very convenient to think that intelligence and law enforcement works like 24, jack bauer movie, but that's now how it works. it works as the putting together of pieces of a large puzzle across multiple agencies working together and communicating and putting together a diverse information set to try and solve complex problems. i've worked with the fbi. i've worked with dhs and others. and they -- and they acknowledge that there are multiple avenues to approach this from. not only that, based on our own analysis of terrorist communications, we know that only about 10 to 25% of them secure their communications at any regular interval and even those who do secure the communications make an enormous number of -- >> can i sum rise what i think you're saying, the ability to prevent attacks by having this information is way overstated. >> yes, it is overstated. it is not -- this is not the silver bullet that the fbi or others are looking for. the fbi -- the cia and others -- >> let me jump in if i could. >> aaron is obviously making some legitimate points. i think it is true that encry

>> i think jack bauer was needed here. you needed someone with all due respect, mr., in truth, i understand exactly what he has to do. he pledged confidentiality. what choice does he have. he has to let the justice department, because he can't just give it up. but i was surprised, actually a talked to a lot of lawyers yesterday. a lot of lawyers were surprised they didn't just go to the companies and say guys, listen, we want to get this one person. not make a giant statement. the giant statement is one that obviously tim cook can't go with it. >> jim, and i have a huge amount of respect for tim cook. i believe he genuinely on policy grounds believes this. some people have made these arguments that he is doing it for business reasons, backed into the corpser because he said certain things publicly. i haven't talked to tim about it personally, but my gamble is that he actually, this is genuinely what he thinks is right. i don't fault him for thinking that. i'm not sure i agree with him. i've sort of gone a little back and forth how to deal with it. >> speaking yesterd