he saw him as maybe the one person who could do what jack dorsey couldn't was to take twitter private and away from the pressures of being a publicly traded company. so had jack not had that sort of infatuation with elon and he spoke with him and texted with him privately and also encouraged the board to go along with this, right? so i think that personal relationship they had behind the scenes sort of made this thing happen. >> looking ahead, you know, musk famously cursed advertisers at that new york times event. can x ever recover? >> it's funny you ask that question and it's time for x to figure out a new business line, because i don't think that advertising alone is a viable business for them anymore and i'm not saying it's going to be zero, but i think when i talk to advertisers the biggest issue they have is elon musk is unpredictable and they have no idea what they're going to do on any given day and the return they have on advertising on x is not worth the risk of suddenly showing up to an anti-semitic tweet or something like that and as long as elon is in charge, i'm not sur

that's where we think it's differentiated. >> you work closely with jack dorsey. give us the division of labor? real on the decision to cap? >> absolutely. this was a joint decision. driven by jack in an effort that was really brought up my clarifying our investment to our financial targets, which is to reach rule of 40 in 2026. we believe we will get there by 15% growth rate. hopefully more. or 25% or so adjusted operating income margin. to drive that margin expansion we need constraint and to drive continued growth that scale we need focus. >> when you say 40 i always question how much your balancing profitability and growth. i'm not sure right now. you can clarify for us. equal, or growth? i love the growth but the pivot occurred after the fed changed. i want more profitability. >> we want profitable growth two. because we invest in high unit economic businesses when we drive a point of growth at the top line that drives high incremental margins at the bottom. growth is ultimately a creative to both profitability. >> i didn't ask out here, you do a lot of work

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