of jack gillum of the ap.llance, particularly how government uses that surveillance even to setting up a fake social network in cuba using the u.s. agency for certainly. the last panel talked about portugal. this time this is something really hits home and that's what's happened in the china, not just with surveillance but with what local police department to do with that data. just the other week i think was an eric garner protest in chicago there were people tweeting an emergency measure vehicle in chicago that are driven by that miraculous started disrupting peoples cell phones and there's wide speculation this was a sting ray device that gathers data on those devices in the area. whether or not the city of chicago would be transparent and what they're doing with information is interesting. i wanted to introduce the panel, chris soghoian, technologist at the american civil liberties union is running a little late. when he arrives we will get right into it but i wanted to introduce some folks are going to re