we are joined by jack hickey, who is a trial attorney, specializing in maritime law. you were representing, of the costa concordia. >> there are a lot of parallels between the concordia and the sewol. the scenario plays out quite similarly, unfortunately. two large passenger vessels leaving at night, sailing at night, both of which veer from their accepted route. and something happens. something disastrous happens. and in the case of the rocks. in the case of the sewol it made a sharp turn and there was probably something in the stow, that is, the cargo on board, shifted and caused an instability, and a list. and in both ships they have a severe list. then, and incredibly, miscommunication. in the sewol you have a captain who is delaying communication, and then according to the captain, there is a wraik i -- break in the communication and he does not try to breach that by other means. and then of course, the biggest comparison here is the fact that both captains got off the vessel before the safety of the passengers was secured. so that's a very distinct parallel. >>

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maritime attorney jack hickey joins me from miami. assengers onboard the costa concordia cruiseline when that crashed off of italy in 2012. jack, how does one determine liability in this disaster specifically off south korea? the captain, crew, ferry company? >> well, you know, as far as civil liability, yes, the ferry company. but as far as criminal liability against this captain, that's really under the korean law. international law doesn't really provide a very specific prohibition on the captain getting off the vessel before the vessel goes down, or before all the other passengers. but, you know, the captain is the master of the vessel. he's master, and in charge of the safety of every single passenger onboard. how can you administer your duties as master of all the safety of everybody, without being there. you have to be there. what's interesting is, in the korean system, the legal system in korea, it is a civil law system different from ours. they have judges making almost all the decisions, not juries. but in certain criminal ca

joining me now, jack hickey, a maritime trial attorney. good morning. l. >> good morning. thank you for being here. jack, arrest warrants have been issued for the captain and two crew members. no specifics were given. but what do you suspect they're being charged with? >> they're being charged undoubtedly with dereliction of duties and possibly attempted murder. what happened here was a complete dereliction of duty of the master, the captain of the vessel is always the master of everything that goes on in the vessel, the navigation and the personnel on the vessel. here, just look in costa concordia, we have a lot of instances of dereliction of d y duty. >> is it a requirement that the captain stay with the ship as long as there's anyone on board? >> carol, pretty much every law, rule, regulation and standard throughout the world says that, yes, the captain must stay with the ship until all personnel are safely off of the ship, certainly passengers. and this captain violated the age-old rule, internationally recognized rule that the captain must stay on t

for more on this, i want to bring in jack hickey who specializes in maritime accidents who joins us from miami. and john kimble, also a maritime attorney in new york. jack, let's begin with you. we have seven crew members charged. do you expect more arrests to happen? >> i don't know if more arrests will happen, but certainly the koreans are making a statement that they are treating this very seriously. they had a disaster in 1970 which killed several hundred people as a result of a ferry that went under. and so they are treating this very seriously. and, you know, really it's a string of failures here, not just one failure, but one failure after another starting with the captain not being at the helm in a navigationally sensitive situation and then going on to the mixed signals to the passengers and then, of course, the captain abandoning ship long before his passengers were in safety. >> and john, i want to sort of hone in on that. the captain not being at the helm. can you help give clarification, was that a violation of the law? there have been some mixed reports about that. >> it's