now, fox business's own charlie gasparino and elizabeth macdonald and "barron's" senior editor jack houghwhat do you think about this? sort of leading man, headline ceo that was there, jack welch. >> jack's successor. melissa: are the big headline guys, is that day over? >> well, let's point out his 20-year alleged tenure he is supposed to have was always kind of squishy. they were always dancing around whether he would be there for 20 years. they were never, they never said specifically he will definitely be there 20 years. i spoke to jamie dimon about this sort of issue, whether ceos get burnt out faster, given everything else that is going on? melissa: yeah. >> i think this is latest line. this is symptom going on for a long time. average lifespan after ceo has been cut dramatically for a lot of reasons, inincluding the fact if you run a big coopany, you have government on your back 24 hours a day. >> to charlie's point, i saw one study average term is five or seven years. melissa: is turnover good. >> ge is now at 25. same when jack welch stepped down in 2001. it was hovering around t