i'm plsed to have jack keane back at this table. welcome. >> glad to be here, charlie. >> rose: tell me what it was like last month and where you think wee going >> well, i was generally encouraged. and the surge forces for afghanistan, the 30,000 plus, they are a decisive force because we're now able to put the troops in ma different areas at the same time along with afghan national army forces which have grown in size and also they are more than an acceptable force. that surprised me. i spent a lot of te with them and a lo of time with r commanders in terms ofheir assessment of that force and they're operating side by side th our fces. what's happening is those deciveorces-- both ahan d no, incilly u.s.-- are having an impt on the taliban and beginning to turn the momentum around to our favor. it is just at the beginning ages the evidence of at itheir morale. we've listened to their conversations everyday. and we're picking updence of low male. nterrogate them evidence of lo male. seco thi tt's happening is there are a numberf th,

army general jack keane reported much the same after a fact-finding trip for general david petraeus, the u.s. commander in afghanistan. keane spoke to pbs's charlie rose on tuesday. >> nothing has changed. every day, out of those sanctuaries, come forces that are killing our forces and maiming our soldiers and interfering with nato's effort at large. that is the absolute facts of it. some of them are actually receiving training from pakistan forces. >> warner: on wednesday in "the new york times," former u.s. ambassador to afghanistan zalmay khalilzad said it was time to get tougher with the pakistanis. "the united states should demand that pakistan shut down all sanctuaries and military support programs for insurgents," he wrote," or else we will carry out operations against those insurgent havens, with or without pakistani consent." late this afternoon, secretary clinton and her counterpart downplayed reports of differences over fighting terrorism. >> yes, there were concerns on both sides. and we shared them. and why not? and why not? but our relationship is often misunderstood wi