jack kemp never did. as we begin this new era of united republic governance, we can't afford to miss it now. we have an incredible opportunity in front of us, to remind america that we will deliver freedom and opportunity to all citizens, regardless of race, gender or where they were born and raised. that is what drew me to the republican party. and what drew my parents to america. my parents left a wealthy life style in india with just $8 in their pocket to come to america to start over. why would they do that? because even in 1969, they understood that no amount of money, no lifestyle, can compare to the opportunities we have in america. only here can you be anything you want to be. if you are just willing to work hard. only here do the circumstances of your birth not define your future. only here is anything truly possible. that is jack kemp's republican party. that is my republican party. and that, at its core, is the american ideal. i'm not an academic. i'm not a philosopher, i am a wife, a mother, a

jack kemp never did. and as we begin this new era of united republican governance, we can't afford to miss it now. we have an incredible opportunity in front of us to remind america that our approach will deliver freedom and opportunity to all citizens regardless of race, gender, or where they were born and raised. that is what drew me to the republican party. and what drew my parents to america. my parents left a wealthy lifestyle in india with just $8 in their pocket to come to america to start over. why would they do that? because even in 1969 they understood that no amount of money, no lifestyle can compare to the opportunities we have in america. only here can you be anything you want to be if you're just willing to work hard. only here do the circumstances of your birth not define your future. only here is anything truly possible. that is jack kemp's republican party. that is my republican party. and that at its core is the american ideal. i'm not an academic. i'm not a philosopher. i'm a wife. i'm

but the conscience behind us, the conscience we need, is the jack kemp foundation, what they stand for, what you support, what jack stood for. that vision, that conscience is something we need on capitol hill. we'll need it in the administration. it is the purpose of this foundation to be one of the leaders in providing that conscience for the people. so, please. i want to thank you for all your help. thank you for coming tonight. i'd like to introduce bishop holloway for the benediction. [applause] >> we are at the close of another home run hit out of the park by the jack kemp foundation. an elegant evening, informative, good food, depreat music. with thought-provoking messages. thank you jimmy, joann, stacey, scott andrew, and all of the kemp family. and the jack kemp foundation team. to the honoree nikki haley, how could you not love her? she is so down to earth. and to all of you that are in attendance, we want to do a benediction as this. 1 john 4:18 says, there is no fear in love. but perfect love drives out fear. because fear has to do with punishment. the one who fears is not m

there is a description on it that says to jack kemp, all good wishes, margaret thatcher. reads the 2016 kemp leadership award, presented to governor nikki haley. mom, i would like you to come up and thank everybody. [applause] >> governor haley, thank you so much. baton you are passing the -- lieutenant governor >> it's henry mcmaster. i hopes going to say south carolina will continue to be with good leadership, and obviously -- >> henry mcmaster was my dad's 88 campaign chairman. there is a weird cycle. i think it is in good hands. to look at this photo of jean kirkpatrick and margaret thatcher and jack is a signal that people of substance and common sense really do make a huge difference in this world, and you are one. we are so grateful that you are going to be -- [applause] >> you can all sit, we are almost done. the kemp foundation is privileged to have paul ryan's chief of staff to give some closing remarks. >> i thought i would start with the scariest statement you can make. i am about to make my last point. for those of us who worked for laughing, small group you k

the half hour discussion was part of the 2016 jack kemp award dinner and incoming u.s. ambassador to the u.n. nikki haley. >>> so recognizing this 75th anniversary and please you can eat your salads and get started, but we thought it would be appropriate on this 75th anniversary to take some time to reflect on america's leadership in the world as a new congress and a new president prepare to take office, so we've invited two very special guests, one of whom i've mentioned already, who have been at the forefront of ideas, ideas that focus on what it means for america to lead, what it means for america to be exceptional and they themselves have been extraordinary leaders and continue to be and we would like them to share their thoughts on the challenges that lie ahead for our nation and for the world. so while you eat your salads, i'd like to welcome to the stage three wonderful friends of the kemp family and i'd like to start with senator john mccain who as you know graduated from the united states naval academy, he's currently chairman of the senate armed services commi

and jack kemp, when you get a bunch of egos in the room as the republican conference, usually people don't pay much attention. when jack kemp stood up to speak, we all listened because we knew he had a vision for america that is thanks to this institute, this foundation is alive and well today and that's why i'm honored to be here. [ applause ] there's an old line about ignoring the lessons of history and then you are doomed to repeat them. in the lessons of history when ronald reagan came to office in a clear statement of peace through strength, it wasn't an accident that the same day he was inaugurated the hostages came home from tehran. the message needs to be sent to vladimir putin that that his adventurism and aggression and attempts to divide up ukraine, which he's done, his attempts to overthrow the freely elected government's of the baltic states, frankly, media reports there were attempt to assassinate the prime minister of this little country called month montenegro. putin is acting with wild abandon. my friends, russia is a gas station masquerading as a country. i want to

ben carson may give us the greatest opportunity since jack kemp to really make a breakthrough in trying to help inner city americans and i think he will do so by standing on jack's shoulders. [ applause ] so there are unique opportunities for millions of americans to break out of the cultural and bureaucratic prisons they're trapped in. first of all, even during world war ii when we were far and away the most powerful country in the world by the end of the war, we were about 50% of the world's gdp in 1946 because everybody bombed each other. we were the only place this hadn't been bombed. and even then we recognized very severe limitations on power. so we didn't try to take out franco in spain. we didn't try to deal with a wide range -- we were very cautious about the soviets. not that they represented american values but that we were advocating a way of life, we were prepared to defend it, frankly, with far more sophisticati sophistication than anything you could get away with today. if you tried to influence the french and italian elections the way we did in the late 1940s it would be

jack kemp never did. as we begin this new era of united republican governance we cannot afford to miss it now. we have an incredible opportunity in front of us to remind america that our approach will deliver freedom and opportunities to all citizens, regardless of race, gender, or where they were born and raised. that is what drew me to the republican party, and what drew my parents to america. my parents left a wealthy lifestyle in india with just eight dollars to come to america to start over. why would they do that? 1969, theyn in understood that no amount of money or lifestyle could compare to the opportunities we have in america. only here can you be anything you want to be, if you are just willing to work hard. only here do the circumstances of your birth not define your future. only here is anything truly possible. that is jack kemp's republican party. that is my republican party. and that, at its core, is the american ideal. i'm not an academic or a philosopher. i'm a wife. i'm a mother. and the

i forgot those two of my role models have been this individual and jack kemp. we were out in the wilderness and in the minority. these two individuals were probably the prime reasons why to the astonishment of one at all, we became a majority in the united states house of representatives. jack kemp, when you get a bunch of egos in a room in a republican conference and people don't pay much attention, he stood up to speak and we all listened because we knew he had a vision for america that is thanks to this foundation. it is alive and well today. that is why i am honored to be here. [applause] mccain: there is an old line about ignoring the lessons of history and then you are doomed to repeat them. the lessons of history when ronald reagan came to office were made clear, a statement of peace through strength. it was not an accident that the day he was inaugurated, the hostages came home from tehran. the message needs to be sent to vladimir putin his adventurism and aggression and attempt to divide up the ukraine which he is done, his attempt to overthrow the fre

my mentor, in addition to jack kemp, is bob woodson. i met bob through jack rack in the early 1990's. bob and i spent a lot of time over the years traveling the country. i just asked for a tutor. teach me. i want to learn. i have these principles and a good opinion on what they look like and how they work. i learned that from jack kemp. let's see how it works in reality. what i'm excited about is more and more and more people. i haven't getting house your public is to do this -- getting out and communities to do this. i think what jack would be excited about is the engagement and the participation of so many people in the senate right on this issue. when he would be really upset about is the polarization of our politics. he is a happy warrior. we think of ourselves as happy warriors. the glass of life is half-full, not empty. you appeal to the better angels of people. you have rigorous debates on ideas but it is done in an inclusive way. i think you'd be upset about the polarization of politics today. there was a related agenda that i th

but the conscience behind us, the conscience we need is the jack kemp foundation. what they stand for. what you support. what jack stood for. that vision, that conscience is something we need on capitol hill. we'd need it in the new administration. it is the purpose of this foundation to be one of the leaders in providing conscience for the people. so please, i want to thank you for all your help. thank you for coming tonight. and now the benediction. >> we are at a close of another home run hitter out of the park by the jack kemp foundation. an elegant evening, informative, good food and great music. with thought provoking messages, thank you, jimmy, joanne, stacy, scott, and all the kemp family and the jack kemp foundation team. to the honoree, nikki haley. how could you not love her? she is so down to earth. and to all of you, we want to do a benediction as this. 1 john 4:18 says there is no fear in love. but perfect love drives out fear because fear has to do with punishment. the one who fears is not made perfect with love. 2 timothy 1:7 says for god has not giv

jack kemp never did. we can't afford to miss it now. we have an incredible opportunity in front of us to remind america that our approach will deliver freedom, an opportunity to all citizens, regard little of race, gender, or where they were born and raised. that is what drew me to the republican party. and what drew my parents to america. my parents left a wealthy lifestyle in india with just $8 in their pocket to come to america to start over. why would they do that? because even in 1969 they understood that no amount of money, no lifestyle can compare to the opportunities we have in america. only here can you be anything you want to be if you just willing to work hard. only here do the circumstances of your birth not define your future. only here is anything truly possible. that is jack kemp's republican party. that is my republican party. and that at its core is the american ideal. i'm not an academic. i'm not a fills on fer. i'm a waive and a mother and a governor of a state who took a chance on me six years ago. i have spent every

it's an inskripgz on it that says two jack kemp. the the 2016 leadership award for advancing the meamerican id. from the kemp's family private collection. mom, i'd like you to come up with thank everybody. >> governor haley, thank you so much. i hope you are passing the baton to a lieutenant governor who will -- >> henry mcmaster. >> oh my goodness. well, i was going to say i hope south carolina will continue to be with good leadership and obviously. >> henry mcmaster was my dad's 88th campaign chairman in south carolina so there's a weird cycle, but it's wonderful. so yes, mom, i think it's in good hands. >> and to look at this photo of jean kirkpatrick and margaret thatcher and jack just is a signal that people of substance and common sense really do make a huge difference in this world. and you are one. and we are so grateful that you are going to be -- [ applause ] >>> >>> you all can sit. we're almost done. we have dave hoppe, paul ryan's chief of staff, to give some closing remarks. dave, thanks for being here. >> i thought i'd

when you have economic growth and expansion, the creation of jobs that you begin to create a pie as jack kemp used to say where everybody can partake in the feast. so look, donald trump understands working people. he respects capital. and he's putting together a team of talented folks who will grow the economy, protect americans interests both domestically and abroad and put us back on a path that will make us even stronger and even greater than we have been in the past. >> he was today neating with a group of african-americans who are workingto, including pastor darrell scott whom i enjoy immensely. he is doing something republicans haven't done, reaching out to community that are -- you know in he way deserving of an alternative to what is liberal -- liberal misguidance and a failure to serve those community. i'm excited for the potential and i think this president is 100% sincere in his evident to turn that around. >> absolutely. he refuses to be defined by the left, and he refuses to be defined by the mainstream media as something that he is not. whether you are talking with the pastor th

when you have economic growth and expansion, the creation of jobs that you begin to create a pie as jack kemp used to say where everybody can partake in the feast. so look, donald trump understands working people. he respects capital. and he's putting together a team of talented folks who will grow the economy, protect americans interests both domestically and abroad and put us back on a path that will make us even stronger and even greater than we have been in the past. >> he was today neating with a group of african-americans who are workingto, including pastor darrell scott whom i enjoy immensely. he is doing something republicans haven't done, reaching out to community that are -- you know in he way deserving of an alternative to what is liberal -- liberal misguidance and a failure to serve those community. i'm excited for the potential and i think this president is 100% sincere in his evident to turn that around. >> absolutely. he refuses to be defined by the left, and he refuses to be defined by the mainstream media as something that he is not. whether you are talking with the pastor th

. >> house speaker paul ryan has spent his whole life working at jack kemp's side, the late new york congressman, thinking about supply side economics. he's starting to piece through with his new chief of staff how to roll out tax reform, working closely. also repealing obamacare with the incoming health and human secretary. mcconnell is focused on the judiciary. there are a lot of openings for the administration. mcconnell is helping the trump administration fill in those gaps and personnel across the regulatory agencies. when you look at pence, he's someone who has been a steady hand, not lecturing the president-elect or chastising him behind the scenes but trying to help the president-elect get ready for governing and to understand congress. because trump is a total outsider. >> there was a nomination, at least informally filled today. and that was v.a. secretary to what appeared to be a pretty robust reception. >> we're seeing right now trump just filling out his cabinet. there's a mix of conservatives. with the v.a., there was a push to keep on mcdonald, but the trump team says

at the time, jack kemp was the secretary of housing and urban development in the first bush administration. a lot of things happened. for years and years, people have been ripping the government off. it was only now surfacing to the extent which this happened. it happened on my watch. i spent a lot of time covering was later called the hud scandal, covering misdeeds that had gone on in many cases years before and people went to jail for this. the other interesting thing about covering housing and urban development is that it taught me , once again, something i always suspected. whatever you bring from your background to your job, it always will inform you. for instance, i lived when i was growing up in buffalo, new york for a short time, in public housing. living in the projects was not an enjoyable experience. but years later, when i was covering people who were living in public housing and were trying to make ends meet i got , they were. i understood what the situations were in a way that other reporters didn't. every experience that i had in my life informed me by the time i got to jour

ended up working on jack kemp's presidential campaign. obviously have that right temperament, the optimistic conservative. but going back to reagan, you sometimes have to be tough. i paid for this microphone, esther green. to rate across the aisle agree with someone, but sometimes you have got to hold your ground too. all i am try to do is make sure we have a government that promotes freedom and prosperity. that is the name of the game. >> what was it about that reagan event that you will never forget? jason lewis: he looked at me. i was a 24-year-old kid who had just tried to eat it, without to work. i was in the san fernando valley two nights before he was elected. and i gave him a thumbs up, and he gave me one back. and that i had a chance to meet him later on in life, and that was really neat. >> what was it about that? him looking at you? is it the message? jason lewis: he was the first candidate in my adult political life that you felt stood for something. in politics, it is the old groucho marx line -- sincerity, if you can fake th

interesting about those people jack kemp was his advocate in congress.hink what trump is coming into is a congress that is friendly it the idea of economy growth being stimulated from corporate tax reform he is proposing and a reduction on tax and regulation on business. there is a diversity of background and agendas from others that you mentioned. i don't believe to tax and growth side he will have a hard time getting peep on the same page. david: the thing about reagan, he had this vision, he had been writing about the vision of the supply side. which by the way is what happened. you lower rates you get more revenue coming in because there more economic activity. i'm not sure that trump has that same vision. that system else focus -- single focus vision that ronald reagan did, which united these people. >> i don't think he does, but i see a lot of similarity with his picks and the first 100 days, a lot of things quickly, that we saw with team that i served with in 1984. a difference, i think that donald trump will be more of a pragmatist. i see more ne

>> i think -- well it's exactly what jack kemp was advocating years ago in creating enterprise skoe zones, you dra kmat cli limit the regulations, give a good tax advantage, have a school that teaches people how to work, teach them to skills for the job. you put that together right you'll have dramatic economic growth. >> what do you think of the idea going forward -- you call it trumpism. you're about to give a speech to the heritage foundation. i don't want you to give your whole speech away but you defend part of trumpism, if you see something really stupid, change it. what are you defining as trumpism? >> well, first of all, i'm trying to learn from trump by watching what he does. and this goes all the way back to his book "the art of the deal", where i got the skating rink story, coming from rudy giuliani telling me about where trump got a golf course built in nine months whether neither mayor giuliani couldn't get it done. this trip to indiana, the carrier example is perfectly trump like. he sees a problem, thinks there opportunity, picks up the phone and gets the job done and then

through the decades and it's rare to find somebody leading hud with housing experience, and i think jack kemp is well known, but i challenge anybody to try and think hud secretaries that walked in with that kind of experience, so i don't think that on its own is a disqualifier. >> what do you think does qualify him, though? >> you want somebody who is going to be focused on housing, who is going to have leadership skills and at least has the ability to pick up this information quickly. i am going with the view that, you know, we have a new president come into the white house and he has the ability to pick his cabinet to run these various posts, and barring something outrageous, they are going to get confirmed. dr. carson, he's a medal of freedom winner, and he was chair of neurological surgery, pediatric surgery at johns hopkins university, a very complex department and won one of the highest awards that very few have won. >> some of the critics including pelosis and t pelosis and others have made concerns known? >> dr. carson clearly communicated to me his commitment to help with hud to lift

we got it with jack kemp's bill which cut rates right away, bang.n waited until the economy was booming and then go in and start to cut spending and maybe get rid of loopholes. but you're completely correct. don't start with the weakest hand. >> well put. that's even better. don't start with the weakest hand. thank you, my friend. >> thank you, neil. fun to be with you. >>> five weeks since the election. five weeks. and the whining and every excuse for coming up with why it happened. i'll tell you why it happened. but i have to think of the right words to say and clean it up for you. right after this. cartels, militias, terrorist groups. they all need a place to park their cash and cherna is their dirty little piggy bank. we're going to insert into the country while nobody is looking. we're going to steal their money, sir? no, we are going to destroy it. we're going to finish this mission. anything we find is ours. do you want to trust a bunch of black water marks? i mean the rush, i've never felt anything like it. if we stay here we're going to die

took the thanksgiving holiday to think about it, sees himself being transformational, a lot see jack kemp, for example. look at his upbringing in inner city detroit and could in fact implement some change and improve housing and urban development. we'll see how the choice develops. we've got some movement possibly on the state department as some point as reince priebus said in the next two weeks. i have a feeling energy and interior are two other cabinet positions they look at pretty seriously with possible movement coming soon. >> i think a lot of movement up and down in the secretary of state position between now and then but in the meantime while we wait for the nation's next top diplomat, the president-elect seems to be doing it himself and getting attention for the phone call with taiwan. team's been down playing it but trump is tweeting. what's behind this strategy? why did he take this call? >> it was intentional. that's what i'm told by people familiar with this discussion, with this decision. it was not a willy-nilly phone call. this was put in place after the election or at leas

, brady has done a very good job at ways and means committee, paul ryan is wonderful, trained by jack kemp all the way, so they're very, very good. they very detailed plan i think would be excellent. i'm really not terribly worried, david, about the whole thing. you're always alert. because these silly people who do accounting don't understand the do name beings that we -- dynamicses we want. you can't balance the budget without economic growth being very, very high,. david: pencil pushers, look at numbers, don't get the way entrepreneurs think. finally a lot of people are concerned about the way the way cabinet shaping up. wall street folks and they're not concerned about supply-side tax cuts. what do you think? >> i think they're wrong. don reagan. david: first treasury secretary of ronald reagan. go ahead. >> without him tax cuts wouldn't have occurred like they did. he was wonderful. tillerson is fantastic. i look all of these people up there. i am holding my fingers crossed, my eyes crossed, my legs, crossed, ears crosses, everything we'll get a couple of good economists on council of

jack kemp comes to mind. there is a question as to what kind of administrator he would be because it's a huge bureaucracy. but he is bringing some clear ideas as to what he would like to see happen in the job. >> so -- go ahead. >> i was just going to say he's run a bureaucracy before in running a hospital. he has had to deal with many folks from different backgrounds. i think this will fall right into so many of his life experiences. >> he hasn't run an entire hospital, though, has he? he's run his surgical team. not an entire hospital. >> he has, and -- not an entire hospital. he's run a very prestigious and very forward-thinking group of individuals that come from many different backgrounds. i think he will be easily prepared for this. >> rebecca -- >> if i -- >> go ahead. >> i'm sorry to cut you off. i just have to comment on one thing. just because you come from an urban environment does not mean you can run hud. that is illogical. to say that because someone is from detroit or someone is from chicago or

i learned them from jack kemp. let us see how works in reality. am excited about is more and more and more people, i have been getting house republicans to do this, getting out in communities, doing justice. what i think jack would be excited about is the engagement and the participation of so many people in the center right on this issue. i think what he would be upset about is the polarization of our politics. it is just, he is a happy warrior. we think of ourselves as happy warriors. the glass of life is half full, half empty. you have rigorous debate on ideas but it is done in an inclusive way that is polarizing. he would be upset about the polarization of politics today. mr. seib: i want to talk more about the poverty agenda. there is a related agenda that emerged in this election and with the election of donald trump, which is the concerns of the working class. let me ask you this philosophical question. a free-market conservative, somebody who believes in the and the free markets privacy of free markets, howdy you address the concerns of pe

you can call it trickle-down economics or anything else, but having worked for jack kemp, we called it supply side economics. which was classical economics and it worked. >> people point to the stock market has gone up. donald trump calls it a trump bump since he won the election. is it -- should people be looking at that as reflecting something real? >> no. i mean, it's real to the extent that you are wealthy and you have a lot of stock. the richest 10% of americans own 80% of all the shares of stock in america. including retirement savings. what the stock increase means, why the shares of stock are going up is because a lot of companies anticipate there is going to be a big corporate tax cut, and that means more profits and more profits means higher share prices. this has nothing to do with average working americans. and the real issue here, and the issue that we need to be paying attention to, is donald trump was elected largely because a lot of people are insecure economically, they're worried about their jobs and their wages. they've been working harder and harder and getting nowh

clearly he is not henry cisneros, he's not andrew cuomo, he's not jack kemp, great hud secretaries withears. he's not julio castro, the current secretary, mayor of san antonio. i think he's going to face a tough confirmation fight, primarily because of his own statements. he has got to find a way to walk back some of the things he said, like his sort of aer is tase ase wasn't qualified. what i do believe is we should have a conversation with him to find out what his vision, what his thought process -- >> he has been accessible. let's talk about some of the other nominees because dr. carson has not -- or any of that in terms of having this debate, we adamantly disagreed with some of his -- >> so, look, the nomination of jeffrey sessions is front and center for the human rights, for the civil rights community because of this record. this is one we have to oppose. this is one we have to be vigorous in opposing because he becomes as -- if he's confirmed, he becomes the chief civil rights enforcer, so there is a question, is he going to use the job of attorney general to undo, undercut, not

become something of a career among our critics to claim reagan, to blame me, to blame michael laffer, jack kemp to blame a whole lot of people who contributed to this story. i'm fine with that, go out and blame. i'm a big boy, i can take it. but for heaven sake, get the facts right. if you want to blame, blame john f. kennedy.he started it in great fashion. and unfortunately he was tragically assassinated but reagan borrowed it, it succeeded in place and all i want to say is we have an election here and this book is not about the election but whoever, somebody needs to form abipartisan coalition , reach across the aisle as kennedy did and reagan did. kennedy's top economic advisor was a republican treasury secretary doug dylan. i think we need to do the same thing and that's all i ask. stop yelling, stop persecuting, stop snarking, not being mean. just look at the facts and read some history and you can see, there it is, a way out that what america unfortunately finds itself and i'm going to turn it over to my pal brian domitrovic. [applause] >> larry and i had a great time writing this book. a

this was jack kemp's dream. however, in reality, the fact is that half the american people depend in one way or another on government help and they're going to still need it. i think somewhere in donald trump's mind, he knows that to remain popular, he's got to be careful. but the default setting is going to be privatize, privatize, and privatize. >> let me ask you a question, with a liberal perspective. why do conservatives believe that the best way to help the rich is give them stuff. tax cuts, more money, give them benefits. and the best way to encourage poor people is cut their programs. hurt the poor, help the rich. >> because they have a fundamental distrust of the role of government. this is -- they're saying, it all gets wasted in government. cut out the middle man and let's have free markets in the extreme. that's their answer. and talk about pendulum swings. they're insisting that a pendulum is going to swing away from the great society and even the new deal. >> what are they -- when are the republican

second there were bold ideas by lawmakers and others like jack kemp and others with the fair tax cent and smart idea is and that third dynamic a president who will lead on tax reform and a new president coming into office who really believes in tax reform so that dynamic that exists has real occurred in a major way this is a unique opportunity for us that most americans have ever given a pope but it is a germanic opportunity to create that new job and we're determined to deliver on that. thank you very much. [applause] >> if the panel by to join us we will continue the discussion. [inaudible conversations] bops and now level turn the program over to the colleague. serving as our senior fellow the minister today of policy studies will be the discussion. >> is my pleasure to introduce our panel i ask them to each speak for about 10 minutes and then we will have the question answer session and the discussion. first to go with jason then dan. a senior research a senior fellow, went to the university of chicago maybe he learned something when he was there, he served in the reagan treasury

then it was the jack kempe and bill bradley. today we've got fair tax, flat tax, abc tax, we have provisions, smart ideas on tax reform. we have the same dynamic. third dynamic then we had a president willing to lead on tax reform. today we have a new president coming into ffice willing to lead on tax eform. those dynamics that existed for the '86 reforms have reoccurred again in a major way. this is a unique opportunity for us to do what most americans have given of hope ever will happen. it's a dramatic opportunity to leap frog america back in the most competitive place on the planet to create that new job. we are determined to deliver on that. thank you very much for having me here today. >> if our panel would like to join us here on the stage, we'll continue this discussion. nd i will turn the program over to my colleague david burton. when we are talking congress, i always want to call you dan burton for some reason. excuse me if i slip into that. david burton is our senior fellow in thomas a. rowe nstitute for economic pol

then it was the jack kempe and bill bradley. today we've got fair tax, flat tax, abc tax, we have provisions, smart ideas on tax reform. we have the same dynamic. third dynamic then, we had a president willing to lead on tax reform. today we have a new president coming into office willing to lead on tax reform. those dynamics that existed for the 1986 reforms have reoccurred again in a major way. this is a unique opportunity for us to do what most americans have given up hope will ever happen. it's a dramatic opportunity to leap frog america back in the most competitive place on the planet to create that new job. we are determined to deliver on that. so thank you very much for having me here today. [applause] >> if our panel would like to join us here on the stage, we'll continue this discussion. and i will turn the program over to my colleague david burton. when we are talking congress, i always want to call you dan burton for some reason. excuse me if i slip into that. david burton serves as our senior fellow in thomas a. rowe

you remember 86 and there really was a partnership, bill bradley, jack kemp, tip o'neill.e here or are we in such a different sort of universe in terms of political cooperation that that is unlikely -- we're unlikely to see that. who could be the bill bradley here. >> great question. and things are very acrimonious or they have been prior to mr. trump's election. that's an important question. look, i don't know, tyler. i would suggest, moderate democrats, very much in favor of business tax reform, and other tax cuts, senator manchin of west virginia would be another one. senator hyeitkamp of north dakoa would be one. i think senator cardin would be open to it. there is a lot of good potential there. there may be trade-offs. you know how these things work. i think that business tax reform is extremely popular. and i personally wouldn't mind seeing them go out republicans in the white house, go right after that. because i think that's the guts of the deal. but my book, jfk, the reagan revolution was all bipartisanship. and i think that tradition lapsed a bit. that doesn't me

secondly, there were bold ideas on tax reform by lawmakers and others from then it was the jack kemps and the bill bradleys and others today. we've got fair tax and flat tax and abc tax and jumpstart tax. we have provisions smart ideas on tax reforms so we had the same dynamic. third dynamic then was we had a president willing to lead on tax reform. today we have a new president coming into office, willing to lead on tax reform. those dynamics that existed for the '86 reforms have reoccurred again in a major way. this is a unique opportunity for us to do what most americans have given up hope ever will happen, but it's a dramatic opportunity to leapfrog america back into the most competitive place on the planet to create that new job and we're determined to deliver on that. so thank you very much for having me here today. [ applause ] >> if our panel to like to join us here on stage we'll continue the discussion. and i will turn the program over to my colleague -- >> two is in my name this time. >> david burton, when we're talking i always want to call you dan burton, so excuse me if

ben carson may give us the greatest opportunity since jack kemp to really make a breakthrough in trying to help inner city americans. and i think he will do so -- [applause] -- by -- >> i can't imagine a better man for this foundation to be meeting and thinking about opportunities to provide unique help to millions of americans who really need to break out of the cultural and bureaucratic prisons that they're trapped in. i think the question is important and i'm probably to extent a extent a hert tick on topic. first of all, even during world war ii when we were far and away the most powerful country in the world by the end of the war we were about 50% of the world's g.d.p. in 1946 because everybody bombed each other. we are the only place that had not been bombed. even then we recognized very severe limitations of power. so we didn't try to take out franco in spain. we didn't try to deal with a wide -- we were very cautious oort the soviets. -- soviets. not that they represented american values but that we were advocating a way of life, we were prepared to defend it, frankly, with far

then it was the jack kempe and bill bradley. today we've got fair tax, flat tax, abc tax, we have provisions, smart ideas on tax reform. we have the same dynamic. third dynamic then we had a president willing to lead on tax reform. today we have a new president coming into office willing to lead on tax reform. those dynamics that existed for the '86 reforms have reoccurred again in a major way. this is a unique opportunity for us to do what most americans have given of hope ever will happen. it's a dramatic opportunity to leap frog america back in the most competitive place on the planet to create that new job. we are determined to deliver on that. thank you very much for having me here today. >> if our panel would like to join us here on the stage, we'll continue this discussion. and i will turn the program over to my colleague david burton. when we are talking congress, i always want to call you dan burton for some reason. excuse me if i slip into that. david burton is our senior fellow in thomas a. rowe institute for economic

paul ryan comes out of a long tradition going back to jack kemp, and i knew paul sitting in with us in4 when we designed the contract for america. he's a great guy. he does have firm principles, very opinionated in some ways, but he's also earned the respect of all of his colleagues. i think trump will learn that he can get a lot done with paul ryan. they have to have honest, frank discussions, but they're both capable, they're both adults, and i think they're very capable of negotiating internally to get a republican party that's united. stuart: mr. speaker, thank you very much for being with us again this morning. we'll see you again soon. >> thank you. stuart: yes, sir. next case, the left attacking the pick for the labor department, andy puzder. racy ads that he ran for carl's jr., we're going to use this as an excuse. wait for it, they're coming any minute. rachel campos duffy joins us now. "the new york times" has already picked up on these racy ads and is attacking andy buttedder the on the grounds that -- puzder that he is a sexist. i can see a big fight coming. >> first of all

second there were bold ideas by lawmakers and others like jack kemp and others with the fair tax centrt idea is and that third dynamic a president who will lead on tax reform and a new president coming into office who really believes in tax reform so that dynamic that exists has real occurred in a major way this is a unique opportunity for us that most americans have ever given a pope but it is a germanic opportunity to create that new job and we're determined to deliver on that. thank you very much. [applause] >> if the panel by to join us we will continue the discussion. [inaudible conversations] bops and now level turn the program over to the colleague. serving as our senior fellow the minister today of policy studies will be the discussion. >> is my pleasure to introduce our panel i ask them to each speak for about 10 minutes and then we will have the question answer session and the discussion. first to go with jason then dan. a senior research a senior fellow, went to the university of chicago maybe he learned something when he was there, he served in the reagan treasury from at

hud, if it's properly led, as it was by jack kemp years ago, can really play a big role in helping then's own personal life, his rise from detroit to being a world leader in his field, gives him an opportunity to have moral authority and i think he could really play a significant role in improving the lives of inner city african-americans in particular because he's such a great role model. i'm thrilled that he agreed. i know he was very troubled. wasn't sure it was the right thing to do and i'm thrilled that he agreed to serve his country. >> the trump campaign has told us, they have confirmed there were four people on the list for secretary of state. >> last week. >> last week. and now we're learning this morning there are so many more names that are added to that list. what do you -- why is that? >> look, i think first of all you have to give president-elect trump a lot of credit. he has been disciplined. he has looked at some very different people. he has taken a lot of time to sit down and try to get to know mitt romney better which i think given how far apart they were was probabl

i think it will be more of what jack kemp tried to do when he was hud secretary.ve tried to do. they tried to coerce suburbs into being more racially diverse. what he will do is create anti-poverty, not just hand out money. stuart: i got my first bro hug earlier on the show. roll that tape. let's see if you can see this. would you demonstrate with me the correct way of doing a bro husband? >> you come in, collapse hands. not full body contact. and give me a pat. stuart: i don't know if you saw that. >> i did, i think you have got to work on it a little bit. stuart: what did i do wrong? come on? >> you are just starting. you will get the hang of it. stuart: do you bro hug? >> me? >> yes, you. >> no, but i do use uber. stuart: what do you think of uber? i love it. stuart: what do you think of them spying on famous people like yourself. >> i have nothing to hide when i'm riding in a cab for heavens sake. stuart: do you get recognition. you walk down the streets in d.c., do people say that's fred barnes, watch out. >> no, they sometimes say it's fred why it beatle bar

these are not the conservatives who rallied around ronald reagan and jack kemp 30 to 40 years ago.se are people who used to be democrats. these are workers. these are laid-off workers. these are blue collar people and they're the people who rallied around donald trump. and i think one of the reflations of the campaign of the last year and a half of politics is when this campaign started, we used to look to people like george will to say, what is the pulse of the republican party and conservative movement and we found out george will doesn't have his fingers on it anymore. >> just real quick, who's the george will of trumpism and pop ewism? it's a hard question to answer. because the trump movement doesn't have this intellectual foundation, doesn't have decades of experience in the political trenes. and this is going to a challenge for trump as he tries to explain himself. there's not a movement behind him in the magazines, on the web, beyond the grassroots activists. >> and yet if you look to your point, the policies, donald trump's tax policies benefit the wealthy, disproportionat