i used to stay with jack kemp in washington.nd whatever you used to say about ronald reagan or bush sr. or jack kemp, they were idealists. in their own way. they were true politicians, statesmen. i disagree with a lot of the politics now as i look back, but these were not con artists who were starting nepotistic family businesses whether it's called trump or jay sekulow's ripoff of evangelicals or pat robertson who himself has become a billionaire with all his garbage on television talking about stopping hurricanes and all the rest. what he's really been doing is building an empire that wound up owning mining interests in apartheid south africa at one point. so you've got to understand these folks are grifters. get it through your head. donald trump is a grifter and he is in bed with other grifters. the trump children would understand the sekulow children perfectly as ivanka goes off to get a chinese patent on her product so she can sell them in china when no one else can get them. these folks are grifters. forget politics. rona

and and people like bob, community -- in a jack kemp mode. rand paul going to black colleges. i think those are good you need a much larger part of the party and the party if you remember that autopsy. the parties said -- we had this political earthquake. >> to what degree do you think there's a role for the black elitist private sector to mobilize black community to get a recognition of your view to disseminate that message. >> many members of these elites. >> the government -- i've spoken to groups of black professionals. and whether it is national but for racial preferences, their class of blacks. and the democratic party has done a good job. and even upper-middle-class, dependent mindset. >> >> charles murray, and the impact of family disintegration. and what could we do policy wise. and to resume the kind of progress they made in the 50s and 60s. >> what would the government stop doing? the program needs to come along. and stop doing things that don't work. it used to be safety nets, who spent generation after generation on government dependency. a few kids trapped in fai

leader who's been around for a long time, visited these neighborhoods, talked to them in the sort of jack kemp mode. rand paul has gone to black colleges and given speeches. i think those are good. but i think you need a much larger effort on the part of the party. and i think the party, if you remember that autopsy report after romney lost, the party said, you know, this is what we need to do going forward. and then you had this, you know, political earthquake with trump come along, and it all sort of went out the window. >> okay. a question back there. >> to what degree do you think there is a role for the black elite in the private sector to try to mobilize the black community to, you know, get a recognition of your view and to, you know, disseminate that message? >> there's a role. i mean, it depends, you know, many members of these elite -- that elite group, i think, have become convinced that it is the government that put them in the position they are in today. in other words, i've spoken to groups of black professionals, black 1%-ers who are convinced but for racial preferences, their c

jack kemp's birthday was thursday. he looked as legislators as a team.an get back to it. >> you're here because you had to testify before the house intelligence committee. i want to get to a mystery here. there's been a lot of attention to this speech that donald trump gave just before the meeting in trump tower. where he said this. >> i am going to give a major speech on probably monday of next week. and we're going to be discussing all of the things that have taken place with the clintons. i think you're going find it very informative and very, very interesting. >> okay, so abby, that speech didn't happen the following week, the week after that. the week after that. the week after that. what happened? >> i have yet to find a trump campaign aide that can explain what happened that day. what then-candidate trump was talking about. why the speech didn't happen. no one seems to have an explanation for it. the key thing to know though is that a few hours before he gave that speech, don jr. finally confirmed a date and a time for this meeting he was going ha

i worked with jude and art and jack kemp before reagan was a supply sider. if i can get 80% this year by thanksgiving, take it. frankly economic growth will make the wealthy wealthier. they don't need a tax cut if the economy grows. we can go from the terrible obamacare growth rate to 3 or 4% growth rate. the wealthy will be just fine. >> newt, thanks for seeing me again. thanks much. optimism that everything will be okay for those legislative goals. the nasdaq, s&p 500, russell 2000 all closing at record levels. the dow not but up appreciably just the same. more after this including fall-out from the jeff sessions comments. if you're being publicly humiliated whether justified or not, at what point do you cease and desist and in the case of jeff sessions, just go? [woman 1] huh. can't find my debit card. [woman 2] oh no... [woman 1] oh, it's fine. [woman 2] yeah, totally. it's fine. but like...is it fine though? because, i would maybe be worried...really, really, really worried. uh...do you want me to go back and look for it? i will. i mean a lot of bad thi

i used to stay with jack kemp in washington.ay about ronald reagan or bush sr. or jack kemp, they were idealess, in their own way they were true politician, statesmen, i disagree with a lot of the politics now as i look back, but these were not con artists who were starting neptistic family businesses whether it's called trump or jay sekulow's rip off of evangelicals or pat robertson who himself has become a billionaire with all his garbage on television talking about stopping hurricanes and all the rest. what he's really been doing is building an empire that wound up owning mining interests in apartheid so apartheid south africa at one point. these folks are grifters. get it through your head. donald trump is a grifter and he is in bed with other grifters. the trump children would understand the sekulow children perfectly as ivanka goes off to get a chinese patent on her product so she can sell them in china when no one else can get them. these folks are grifters. forget politics. ronald reagan would hate this whole crew. richa

jack kemp was there. bill bradley had something on the gold standard.cord had defense reform ideas. so startups in the back of the house and phi neighled their way through the committees. now you have few entrepreneurs. havvery few people are thinking creatively. i have a friend from palo alto who thinks this way through there is not as much as entrepreneurship and the main cause is the leadership has taken control and centralized everything, so the committee system is broken and the startups are broke. >> woodruff: and the white house is having its share of problems affidavit lot of attention about this profanity-laced phone conversation that the new white house communications director -- he hasn't actually taken the job but been famed by the president -- had with a "new yorker" reporter. seems everywhere we look there is conflict, screaming, discord. you know, where do we see hope and something positive? >> well, obviously not in shields and brooks. (laughter) >> woodruff: i'm giving you a chance. >> sunday 9:00, if people want to hear a good sermon.

do this before even recently, come here and apologize for the southern strategy or come here like jack kemp and talk about the need for all of us to move forward together. you would hope that's what president trump would want to do right now, especially given how low his approval ratings are. but he apparently just keeps wanting to add insult on top of insult to our communities. it's very unfortunate. it's not what the country needs right now. >> what is the president's relationship like with both the naacp and the black community as a whole? >> folks right now, it's generally most of us obviously not all of us feel one way or the other, but most of us are very concerned about his entire administration. you have betsy devos, the most anti-public education secretary of education we've ever had. you have jeff sessions, who seems to be out of some old film who wants to take us way back to the failed war on drugs and act like it's a new thing. and you have a president who has shown again and again that he really has very little respect for people of color in this country, for minorities of all

i played bill bradley during the 2000 primaries, i played jack kemp in the past.thing that had to be done. >> there are people that suggested your taking yourself out of the debate hurt him and his chances. do you have second thoughts and think, wow, if the debate prep had been a little stronger, had his performance been a little stronger, al gore might have been president of the united states? >> no, i don't think about that. i'm sorry that al lost and i think that there are lots of reason why that happened. what was more interesting about all of this was george bush's reaction to this. he said at the time, "i'd like to shake his hand if i ever meet him." well, i did meet president bush in november of 2002 and he was with some eastern european parliamentarians at the nato session in prague. he saw me when i introduced myself, he put his arm around me and said to the eastern european leaders, he was me, he was me. this is a good guy. i think what president bush understood and what i understand was that there was something more than just winning or losing a preside

or were defeated or went elsewhere, whether it was dick cheney becoming secretary of defense or jack kemp leaving to run for president. so there was a way that gingrich benefited by these people who were expected to move up going elsewhere. one of the things we found doing the early archival research of gingrich's early years, there is this thing about how to use language, but there is an islier memo where gingrich talking about the same thing, the importance of language, so i think that is a theme we should explore further. >> all good points. i think he was focused if not more focused than the democrats. how they saw politics on capitol hill, the republicans, and he is very worried after 1980 four that reagan will start compromising the democrats and undercut the argument -- after that reagan will start compromising the democrats and undercut the argument. compromising with them. because we are on this other mission. don't start compromising with them because we are on this other mission. he and the leadership were not on the same page, but part of what is interesting is they do a job a

saw it throughout the presidency where time and time again, oppose ronald reagan from the right, jack kemp. newt gringrich opposed ronald reagan's social security reform in vote of the house floor. i actually looked it up, craig, so i know that's correct. it raised taxes as part of a compromise. reagan in dairies refers to people as ultras throughout his career. reagan was a principled man. he was not a libertarian, he was not an idealog. i got an e-mail. i wrote a piece in politico. reagan's first national security writer adviser wrote my boss, today i wrote a fantastic piece. how the right gets reagan wrong and i would like to tell them so . [applause] >> you have 12 minutes to go at it. >> but you don't get all 12. >> all right. i will put my guard up. >> reagan is a new deal and then he goes in to how reagan managed economy and managed big government dictating to the individual people and as a matter of fact, he said, i remember in 1981 he wrote in his dairy that tip o'neil was an older who thought that the 50 states were administrative states dictated by the federal government and he

say as they sought to route the presidency with the ideologues to oppose ronald reagan to oppose jack kemp or new to the rich -- newt gingrich to go against the house floor. and to raise taxes. reagan and his diaries refer to people as ultras he was a principled man he was not libertarian and i invite you to read my book. >> one other thing of a bike a road to peace and "politico" so reagan's first national security adviser said i have a fantastic peas this is bob on so at least one person who was there in the beginning. [applause] so you have 12 minutes. >> sometimes i am confused by his arguments and then big government dictated to the individual people and it 1981 that tip o'neill just thought the 50 states would be dictated to by the federal government and he opposed that. but one thing that is interesting is. >> he did right back the ban also said he was not trying to undo the new deal. >> but in 1977 those that were sick and tired of the cliches of those liberals in washington. >> when i talk about. >> desiree state of affairs leading to the democrats. he is denouncing the new deal.

jack kemp and newt gingrich opposed the social security plan.again, it raised taxes as part of a compromise. reagan and his diaries dericesively refers to people as ultras throughout his career. reagan was a principled man, not libertarian, the way we understand the word, not an idealogue and i invite you to read my book to read the full argument. one other thing, this is -- i got an e-mail -- i wrote a piece in politico and raid out the reaganism versus the reagan the sunday, and richard allen, the first national security adviser, wrote in i book: today i read a fantastic piece that is spot on and i'd like to tell him so. so at least one person who was there at the beginning thinks i've got something to talk about. >> all right. [applause] >> okay, panel. you have 12 minutes to go at it. 12 minutes. >> but you don't get all 12. >> all right. i'll put my guard up. >> sometimes i'm confusioned by henry's arguments because he says the reagan is a new dealer and then goes into how reagan eschewed government and managed economy and managed big gover

time and again, ideologues, they opposed ronald reagan from jack kemp, newt gingrich, both opposed ronaldreagan's social security reform. and in a vote on the house floor, i don't know if that's correct but they vote no. and again, it raised taxes as part of a compromise. reagan in his diaries referred to people as pollsters throughout his career. reagan was a principal man, he was not a libertarian way we understand that word. he was not anideologue and i invite you to read my book to read the full argument. one other thing i like to say is that i got an email , sorry, i wrote a piece where i laid out thereaganism versus reagan thinks of richard allen , reagan's first national security writer wrote my book and wrote a fantastic piece in politico, mister henry olson, how the right gets reagan wrong is spot on. so at least one person who was there at the beginning has something to talk about. [applause] >> okay panel. you have 12 minutes to go. >> 12 minutes. >> but youdon't get all 12. >> output my card up . i'm sometimes confused by henry's arguments because he said reagan is a new deale

working for the late jack kemp, his birth date is thursday.on, jimmy wrote on the anniversary of his birthday. we we used to be a team as americans. in fact coming here in washington, republicans and democrats at the end of the day would go drinking and eating together. you would watch people enjoying themselves as a team. now it's been so long since i've seen that activity, that cooperation. we have lost as a country. we are truly lost here in washington and i'm not sure we can get this back good >> cabeza tip o'neill and ronald reagan are long gone. michael caputo, thank you. a new york doctor has to the u.k. to help. why is the mainstream media giving it such minimal coverage. father jonathan morris weighs in on that next. plus, she's only been a senator for seven months. pamela harris carried out for a presidential race in 2020. who she just met with this raises some eyebrows. we'll be right back this morning. new bike? yeah, 'cause i got allstate. if you total your new bike, they replace it with a brand new one. that's cool. i got a new h

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