that's i came to know jack kemp. it was the very first the many meetings and exchanges between the two of these two great icons, these great friends. back then that's basically what tragedy. you had to go door to door to find like-minded conservatives. well, ed feulner changed all of that and he gave us all of this. he helped give us a conservative movement that moves. he inspired a generation to take on public service as a vocation, to reclaim our founding principles and apply them to the problems of the day. one thing that we know is that ideas alone, they are not enough. that doesn't quite just cut it. if they weren't we would always fix our broken tax code by never i wouldn't be taking up your morning. old reform means taking on not just the status quo itself, but the people who defend it. who stop at nothing to keep the system rigged. that's, in that spirit i need to talk about a big choice that we have to make. a choice that is just so central to the future of our country. as you know under president trump's le

. >> but even jack kemp applied at that point. >> he also introduced a bill and people looking at newt gingrich today with that freshman legislator at the time. >> so he reached a point no doubt started off as a rockefeller republican in supported him for president in 1968. but most see that as good intentions but it does the work practically in the governmental sense. he was always anti-establishment go. >> he stood up against the apartheid government voting for the 85 civil-rights act got a lot of grief in georgia there was a pretty white district and to accuse naboth jimmy swaggart's max -- masthead this is the newt gingrich that i think of the image to dave w. would recognize. >> actually i do the nikki would say yes i did those things why wouldn't i? of course i would vote in the civil-rights act with nicaragua. >> this book has a lot of history going back to the tide of what politics was like this year when donald trump that with the russians negative you pointed out a number of the democrats. >> also the nicaraguan communist government did with reagan's foreign policy that was t

he was more jack kemp at that time. >> guest: he was kind of jack kemp before jack kemp. >> host: he introduced the bill for medical marijuana. >> guest: yes. >> host: way before it's time. i think people looking at new today and in the chastity would've looked at this freshman legislator come in at the time as a freshman congressman, is that the newt gingrich it again? >> guest: well, i think he reached a point where, no doubt he started out as a rockefeller republican. he said so. he supported rockefeller, nelson rockefeller for president in 1968, but he evolved over time because the way most people arrived at a conservative decision because they see liberalism is not working. good intentions, good ideas but it doesn't work practically in a governmental sense whereas conservatism and the free market does work. so he evolved over the time. he was always antiestablishment. >> host: he stood up against the south african apartheid government. few republicans stood up on that. he voted for the 85 civil rights act and got a lot of grief for that i assume in georgia for that. a pretty whi

jack kemp, as in tax cut kemp. we had the opportunity to work with paul when he was at empower america. when he was a back bench republican member. when he was chairman of the house budget committee, and then chairman of the ways and means committee. now we are honored to continue working closely with him as he serves as speaker of the house of representatives. we value his commitment to the principles that hold the conservative movement together. and we look forward to continuing our close engagement with him, particularly as we work to transform america's tax system in a true kempian american. it's my great honor and privilege to welcome back to the heritage foundation our good friend, speaker paul ryan. [ applause ] >> look, first of all to dr. fullner and the people here thanks for having me. the first thing i want to say is i want to say how much we, each of us, myself included, owe to this man, ed fullner. [ applause ] the conservative movement has never had a happier warrior or a more flunks one. i get a kic

we were in college together and i got to drive in jack kemp's motorcade while he and bob dole were running and called my wife and a friend and told her what was happening and she said that is great but who is jack kemp? he is running for vice president. she was silent for a minute and said you have to campaign to be vice president of the university? not a political creature at all. we don't discuss politics at home. i have in the past several years become more committed to my favorite. started going to seminary largely because i talk about faith and culture on my radio program in atlanta and started getting a lot of smaller churches. they would say pastor is going to be gone could you fill in? i would say no because i had never been to seminary. getting so many requests i figured it was time to go to seminary. they found out i was going to reform seminary and none of them have called since. but i stayed going to seminary. i love it. i take a class a semester. when i first went the president of the seminary took me to lunch and said you have to make me a promise before you go to seminary. i

where bruce bartlett spoke, bruce bartlett being an advocate of supply side economics, partner with jack kemp in that regard. he said, let me see, i may have exactly what his words are. -- i ically said that don't know i don't have his used a ds here but he little profanity, maybe that's why it's not here. he said this whole supply side dynamic scoring pay for itself, it's just not true, nonsense, b.s. complete and total nonsense. it just doesn't happen. it never has. supply side has its own justification but it doesn't pay for itself. fighting -- we will be on the other side of that, weave better deal, our budget is a better deal, better jobs, better pay, better future for america's families, lowering the cost of living for america's working families, equiping them with the tools so that they and their families have a place in the economy in the 21st century. and we are fighting for that better deal right now. on another subject yesterday, mr. hoyer and i visited fema headquarters for a status update on relief efforts after hurricane maria. i want to thank the fema volunteers and workers, th

we were in college together and i got to drive in jack kemp's motorcade while he and bob dole were running and called my wife and a friend and told her what was happening and she said that is great but who is jack kemp? he is running for vice president. she was silent for a minute and said you have to campaign to be vice president of the university? not a political creature at all. we don't discuss politics at home. i have in the past several years become more committed to my favorite. started going to seminary largely because i talk about faith and culture on my radio program in atlanta and started getting a lot of smaller churches. they would say pastor is going to be gone could you fill in? i would say no because i had never been to seminary. getting so many requests i figured it was time to go to seminary. they found out i was going to reform seminary and none of them have called since. but i stayed going to seminary. i love it. i take a class a semester. when i first went the president of the seminary took me to lunch and said you have to make me a promise before you go to seminary. i

that allowed you to get bill bradley and jack kemp together on the page.onomists agreed at that time lower rates, broader base, is a better way to go. >> jack kemp, republican, that was part of the secret sauce back in 1986 in the early '80s. there was bipartisan support. there are tax cuts to individuals with an equivalent tax high to cooperations. and there were, you know, laborers were taxed lower than shareholders were. there was at least some semblance that regular folks were getting -- >> much easier to sell to the american people than the current plan. and that's even discounting the idea that ronald reagan was in 60s in approval. donald trump is down in the 40s. in this case, you've got a tax plan that according to the tax policy center raises taxes on individuals overall although wealthy people get a big tax cut. that is difficult to defend -- well, economists don't buy the administration's argument so far. in fact, there's a bush administration economist who runs the penn wharton model who says this will shrink growth in the long run. what about

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. >> that was more jack kemp. >> also he introduced a bill for a medical marijuana. >> [laughter] yes. way before his time. >> people looking today with the image he has today is that the newt gingrich that he became?. >> i think he reached a point no doubt as a rockefeller republican and did 1968 but they see the liberals are not working. but it doesn't work practically in the governmental since with conservatism in the free market. so always anti-establishment. >> to stand up against the south african apartheid government he voted for the 85 civil rights act and got a lot of grief for that and it was a pretty white district that happily taking his name off the jimmy swaggart mass ted but this - - masthead but this is the newt gingrich they would recognize. >> this is the image of today. of course he would say yes side did those things of course, i would take my name off or of course, i would oppose apartheid or is in nicaragua or to support the government but there is a lot of history to see what politics was like talking how donald trott met with the russians that been a number of

we were in college together and i got to drive in jack kemp's motorcade while he and bob dole were running and called my wife and a friend and told her what was happening and she said that is great but who is jack kemp? he is running for vice president. she was silent for a minute and said you have to campaign to be vice president of the university? not a political creature at all. we don't discuss politics at home. i have in the past several years become more committed to my favorite. started going to seminary largely because i talk about faith and culture on my radio program in atlanta and started getting a lot of smaller churches. they would say pastor is going to be gone could you fill in? i would say no because i had never been to seminary. getting so many requests i figured it was time to go to seminary. they found out i was going to reform seminary and none of them have called since. but i stayed going to seminary. i love it. i take a class a semester. when i first went the president of the seminary took me to lunch and said you have to make me a promise before you go to seminary. i

i studied what art laffer and what ronald reagan did and what conservatives pushing for, jack kemp, i read a lot about jack kemp back in the day, the notion, you can ask steve forbes about this, the proponent of the flat tax for a long time. the notion of real individual tax reform on individual side is to compress the rates a lot. and then get rid of the loopholes. then you make economic decisions based on you know, your pocketbook. neil: let me ask you about the corporate rate. >> they're not doing that here. neil: it is 35% now, but the prevailing rate, what did you say, people on average? >> something like 27%. neil: i've been hearing a number of networks saying 16 or 17. it gets down to 20%. it is big differential. if it starts getting up into the mid 20s, not so big of a differential. >> right. this is where it becomes politically interesting, they're looking to pay for big corporate tax cuts squeezing rates down like art laffer said on individual side, looking to do this by taxing people on the individual side. it is so clear to me. we haven't seen all the details in the budget

. >> jack kemp put it beautifully said you can't love jobs and hate job creators.aid it beautifully, long, long ago, i have never been hired by a poor man. when you look at this, the economics what gets me, trish if i can, every time we raise the highest tax rate, anytime we raise by substantial amounts over period of time, from 1913, not 1913, from 1919 on, every time we do that tax revenues from top 1% of income earners gone down as share of gdp. they find loopholes, tax dodges, they don't pay the taxes. you will not get the money t will cause a bad economy. plus you're behaving very improperly versus people you should be proud of and honor. trish: i hear you. numbers speak for themselves. >> they really do. trish: you up taxes revenues go down. will not do you any good economically. >> on top 1%. trish: you know who it does good with, likes of bernie sanders and elizabeth warren. >> i don't think so. trish: this is what republicans are facing right now. they're fearful people will say, giving a tax handout to the rich. giving a tax handout to corporations. so th

i was disciple of jack kemp going back to the 1970s. reagan tax cuts in '81. that is what turned our economy around. you see benefit of that ever since. by the way with reagan, he went with tax cuts in '81 and larger tax reform came five years later. one way or the other we have to get these cuts. trish: i think a lot of people would really like to see them. congressman king, always good to see you. >> good to see you, trish. trish: 18 people are dead as wildfires in northern california continue to spread. our own hillary vaughn is in napa valley. she has the very latest for you on this horrific story. that's next. ♪ approaching medicare eligibility? you may think you can put off checking out your medicare options until you're sixty-five, but now is a good time to get the ball rolling. keep in mind, medicare only covers about eighty percent of part b medical costs. the rest is up to you. that's where aarp medicare supplement insurance plans insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company come in. like all standardized medicare supplement insurance plans, they co

is paul, i just want to say as we wrap this up that our joint mentor, jack kemp, would be very, very proud of you. thanks for everything you're doing. mr. ryan: appreciate. it thank you. thanks for coming back. mr. fuelner: thanks for coming over. mr. ryan: really. [inaudible] thank you. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2017] take you live now to toronto on major world and policy issues. deon willich and e.j. presidency and is president trump to blame. and now on to toronto. >> one nation after trump. two pairs of terrific debaters and let this house assemble and get these people in their seats and we will have a terrific toronto fordowntown the debate on the crisis of american dempsey. i'm your moderator and i organized these debates and our debateors over the next hour and a half. give us a couple of moments and get this the mumping's debates on the crisis of american democracy. back to you live momentarily. >> operate better. >> the canadians -- you can't take it away. >> barack obama has rebuilt the trust of the world in our willingness to work throug

it is a remarkable switch to see people like paul ryan who learned at the knee of jack kemp, cut taxes for everyone mimicking language of the left on that. neil: what would the fallout be among wall street investors, many welcome the corporate tax rate and benefit from that as well some of the stocks that underpins that. but that crowd the doesn't get the cut, what do you think? >> there are two thoughts on this. if you are paying taxes you had a good year so net net that is a good thing. the you have to pay more taxes or less? that remains to be seen. big government equals small wallet and the more money out-of-pocket is money that does not go into the business or social security or social services all of which are badly needed, to the president's point for the middle class so that is a litmus test, how does the middle class which has been sold out since the financial crisis began recover or benefit from this? that is what i'm watching. neil: on that point, if the upper income don't see a rate cut, hypothetically it stays 39.6%, we don't know lovell that would kick in, all other taxes

when we did the tax cut in the 1980s, jack kemp and president took the lead.publicans don't believe in tax cuts. they believe in static revenue neutrality. they are not our allies. they are not ones we should be there with. but the democrats like claire mccaskill, how will she vote? heitkamp? what about this guy donaldson going to do? joe manchin of indiana. neil: donnelly. >> i said donnelly. neil: your view better some tax cut, no tax cut. could live with 15%. 20% would be a big drop. largely small business rate would hold, you hope. >> yeah. neil: is that enough to goose the economy? >> it will surely help it. we have a goosed economy. deregulation president done with executive orders. no longer having obama kicking the economy every day of the week improved the economist. all these things are happening, this will give it a little whack to have it going faster. once this economy starts, neil, i hate -- once it is starts it is really hard to stop. growth rates of 4%, 5% for a period of time are not out of the question. under reagan and kennedy, growth rates

i'm a ronald reagan, jack kemp disciple. believe in growth economics and across the board tax cuts but i don't think we should take away deductions that would allow taxpayers along long island and new york to subsidize tax breaks for the rest of the country. >> bill: do you recognize that discussion coming from leaders of the republican party? >> i really thought we were against class warfare in our party. a rising tide lifts all ships. if you can get tax cuts across the board. everyone will gain from it. there shouldn't be class warfare. you shouldn't penalize the rich and people who live in different parts of the country. we shouldn't be taxed on a tax. >> bill: we'll see it on wednesday if not before. thank you for your time. peter king out of new york. thanks. >> sandra: the corruption trial of new jersey senator bob menendez resuming as the defense seeks a mistrial claiming the judge is biased. david lee miller is live in federal court in newark, new jersey. >> this now day 27 for new jersey democratic senator robert me

speaker, it used to be that there were serious thinkers on the republican side, people like jack kemp. i disagreed with him. but at least he had innovative ideas of enterprise zones and how to really create johns. but for the past 20 years, the republican party has been devoid of ideas. it was a mantra. tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts. oh, we're changing to a digital economy, how do we solve it? tax cuts. that is not a solution. the chair: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from kentucky reserves this egentlelady from tennessee. mrs. black: i do want to talk about common sense for a moment. common sense is if other oecd countries have an average corporate rate of 18% and 20% and ours is between 35% and 39%, and we have companies that go overseas, it seems to me to be common sense to be at least equal to what other countries are doing. now i yield three minutes to the gentleman from pennsylvania, mr. smucker. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for three minutes. mr. smucker: thank you, madam chair. i'd like to begin by extending my appreciation to you for your hard workin

it is based on the thinking of people who used to be republicans and people like jack kemp who said, let us invest in areas that don't have jobs and economic growth. and have heavy investment for training on the technologies of the future. that used to be the thinking on the other side of the aisle. we used to have differences, but there used to be creativity and a sense of what's actually going to invest in people to grow the economy. and now under this president it's just a mantra of tax cuts for the very wealthy. tax cuts for the people who need it least. tax cuts for corporations. no sense of actually investing in new industries, investing in the training and skills of the twefrpbl. investing in bringing cap -- the 21st century. investing in bringing capital to the places that need them. i hope and believe that as people in good faith will look at the two contrasting proposals, one that says tax cuts for corporations, the other that says, let's invest in american workers, let's invest in american communities, that they will conclude that the way to actually raise wages, the way t