jack kemp was my mentor, and i worked on this issue with him, in 20 years in congress. my reaction is -- it is what i tell my kids, school students when i talk about civics, democracy and the republic that we are. if you believe passionately in something that will make a big difference in peoples lives, what is great about our system of government is you work, you work, you push, you push, you convince, run on an idea, run for office, and if you get elected, you go try and put that idea in place to make a difference in people's lives. that is what these jobs are about. that is what is exciting about what i do, and it takes time, in a system like we have. it does take time. tax reform has been something i have literally been working on for over 20 years. this country, we have been talking about it for 30 years. it takes time to do these things, but it does work. and that to me is a vindication of the system of government we have, a representative of -- representative democracy, and the fact that if you believe in something, stick at it and you can accomplish those goals.

to donald trump's point, this have been republicans like jack kemp who took black poverty and the lackgaged with the black community, had good policies, had good relationships. trump is not one of them. trump has never shown up for any of these real discussions that happened in the community all the time. he could. he should. i hope he will. jared kushner has been talking about criminal justice reform. that's a key part of getting out those numbers better than the community. he asked somebody close to him getting issues, i hope donald trump, if he wants to talk about this stuff, don't just talk the talk, walk the walk. let's be real about it. in the meantime, jay-z is setting a much better example for america than donald trump. >> can you tell us who is on the next van jones' show? >> i can't tell you the day but it's going to be good. >> i heard rumors. >> there is rumors. >> great to see you. >> thank you. >> tanks for coming over. we'll see if the president keeps tweeting about this topic. let's turn to the topic of immigration, another giant story this week. an immigration plan pre

jack kemp was somebody who cared about our community. and he was not black. if you look at the people that are in this cabinet, just because they are black doesn't mean they don't have the capacity to give solid advice to the president as it relates to our community is absolutely false. >> i see it differently and i'll tell you why. i think skin color can sometimes be a proxy for a certain set of experiences. maybe we should be more accurate about what e we mean. i don't see anybody in the cabinet who has deep ties with the african-american community or the native american community or muslim community or any non-white community. so whether it's they are born and raised there, they have the skin tone, maybe this is not the right way to say it, but the ties and the perspective grow out of a certain set of experiences and commitments. i don't see that in the trump white house. and the model color of it underscores that deeper reality. >> if it's not about whether the president cares about the black community, let's give him that. he probably doesn't care about

. >> remember when jack kemp said people care about how you make them feel first.viding them, none of what you are talking about matters. and that is a reality. we're not robots, we are human beings. >> we have to wrap it there. thank you so much for the conversation. >> thank you all. we appreciate all of your input. up next, we're taking a look at first lady melania trump's first year in the white house as well. s sumatra reserve. let's go to sumatra. the coffee here is amazing. because the volcanic soil is amazing. so we give farmers like win more plants. to grow more delicious coffee. which helps provide for win's family. all, for a smoother tasting cup of coffee. green mountain coffee roasters. you wouldn't feel good not knowing the price here. don't let it happen when you buy your diabetes test strips. with the accu-chek guide simplepay program, you pay the same low price. all without having to go through insurance. plus, they come in a spill-resistant vial along with a free meter. skip the guessing game and focus on your health. not the cost. make saving sim

make america great again, to bring our economy back, to offer that hope growth and opportunity that jack kemp used to talk about in the 80s. what he's done is no less than a miracle to growth at 3% which barack obama's people said we would never see again, so i'm upset this fraud of a book, this fraud of an author has put forth this what i consider national inquirer on steroids. it is a selacious book that is outrageous on its face and quite honestly, i'm animated about it because i'm so upset that it is detracting from this president's important agenda. liz: all right let's get to the book. the washington post has said already that this michael wolf has a long history of getting the facts wrong or even making things up. even in his own book, michael wolf says he can't be sure parts of it are true. here is what michael wolf said in print in his book. many of the accounts of what has happened in the trump white house are in conflict with one another. many, in trumpian fashion untrue and looseness with the truth is not with reality itself, are an elemental threat of the book. sometimes, i have

. >> steve and i were jack kemp's presidential steering committee together, and jack was from los angelesave to feed our entrepreneurs, we have to give them the ability and the wherewithal to really make a go in the private sector. i believe california can go that way. jerry brown is the only democrat to really have been elected governor in the last 50 years. and is we've elected some great republicans; reagan, wilson. i think we can again, and i think the voters of this state recognize what these can -- >> so how, john, how, john, do you get this crazy legislature you have even though you have term limit, the same kinds of people seem to go in there. democrats may not get this bill through because they don't have a supermajority so you can block it there, but the republicans are still a very distinct minority in the legislature. how do you get around that? >> well, you ought to talk to art laffer who i know you know well -- >> he moved out of california. >> i know. and he endorsed a ballot initiative, a constitutional amendment i proposed called the neighborhood legislature which takes a

deeply narrow when it comes to issues of poverty, jack kemp and others putting pressure on the republican party, legacy of martin luther king putting pressure on the democratic party but the other side of this, which we have to be honest about is market driven corporate media that made donald trump the center of entertainment where they made big money, one of the ceos made it clear donald trump is bad for the country, good for us, why is it good for you? revenue. they followed every speech, my dear brother bernie sanders got 20 seconds, 30 minutes, why not have equal treatment? it is market driven even in the media. thank god for c-span. can you imagine what the quality of public dialogue would be without c-span? fox news, msnbc, the propaganda machines. one a conservative propaganda machine the other a neoliberal propaganda machine. we have dialogue with them and so forth but you are not going to get the most balanced view out of sean hannity or chris hayes. they have their own agendas. you can't just promote your agenda. you got to mention something bigger than your own agenda. that is

jack kemp was my mentor, and i worked on this issue with him, in 20 years in congress.y reaction is -- it is what i tell my kids, school students when i talk about civics, democracy, and the republic that we are. if you believe passionately something that will make a big difference in peoples lives, what is great about our system of government is you work, you work, you push, you push, you convince, run on an idea, run for office, and if you get elected, you can put that idea in place to make a difference in people's lives. that is what these jobs are about. that is what is exciting about what i do, and it takes time, in a system like we have. it takes time. tax reform has been something i have literally been working on for over 20 years. this country, we have been talking about it for 30 years. it takes time to do these things, but it does work. is a vindication of the system of government we have, a representative of democracy. if you believe in something, stick at it and you can economist those goals. that is my big take away on this. i can get into the economics and