[laughter] but one thing i've been thinking about lately is ed campaign with jack kemp running and 88 air to reaganism and was defeated that he retired from congress which opened a huge vacuum filled by newt gingrich. if jack stayed in congress he would have been speaker of the house in 1995 no question. sometimes we thinkat about things that did happen rather than those that didn't. also there was an important article bob woodward wrote a few years ago how gingrich was actively engaged in the defeat of george h.w. bush. and he saw the way the wind was blowing, he may have had some knowledge bob michael was going to retire. he could see the southern democrats were just on the brink of becoming republicans and this would create the possibility of a republican majority. somehow i see these events as being interrelated and i was in the middle of it working the reagan white house and then at the treasury department involved in raising taxes and things of that sort. and one of the few reagan people who survived the bush transition. he fired everybody as if he was a t democrat and a lot of

[laughter] things i've been thinking about is the 88 campaign and the fact you had jack kemp running.ack was clearly the heir to reaganism and he was defeated, but more importantly, he retired from congress, which opened up a huge vacuum that was filled by newt gingrich. if jack stayed in t congress he would have been the speaker of the house in 1995. there's no question about that. i think sometimes we think to too much about things that did happen rather than what didn't. also there was an important article bob woodward go to a few years ago about how gingrich was actively engaged in the defeat of george hw bush. and this is i think he saw the way the wind was blowing he may have had some knowledge that bob michael was going to retire. these would create the possibility of the republican majority and so somehow i see these events as being interrelated, and i was sort ofe right in the middle of ited because i worked with of the reagan white houser and then i was over at the treasury department where we were involved in raising taxes and thingsgs of that sort. i was one of the very fe

things i've been thinking about for some reason lately is the 88 campaign and the fact that you had jack kemp and now, jack was clearly the air to reaganism. and he was defeated but more importantly he retired from congress which opened up a huge vacuum that was filled by newt gingrich. if jack had stayed in congress, he wouldhave been speaker of the house in 1995, no question about that . and so i think that that sometimes we think too much about things that did happen rather than things that didn't happen . and also, there was an important article, the bob woodward wrote a few years ago about how gingrich was actively engaged in the defeat of george hw bush and this is i think he saw the way the wind was blowing. he may have had some knowledge that bob michael was going to retire. he could see that all these southern democrats were just on the rate of all becoming republicans and at this would create the possibility of a republican majority. so i don't know, somehow i see these events as being interrelated. and i was sort of right in the middle of it because i was working in the reagan whit

things i've been thinking about for some reason later is the '88 campaign and the fact that you had jack kemp running, and now, jack was clearly the heir to reaganism and he was defeated, but more importantly, he retired from congress, which opened up a huge vacuum that was filled by newt gingrich. i mean, if jack had stayed in congress, he would have been speaker of the house in 1995. there's no question about that. and so, i think that that-- sometimes we think too much about things that did happen rather than things that didn't happen and also, there was an important article that bob woodward wrote a few years ago that how gingrich was actively engaged in the defeat of george h.w. bush in 1982. and this is, i think, he saw the way the wind was blowing. he may have had some knowledge that bob michael was going to retire. he could see that all of these southern democrats were just on the brink of all becoming republicans and that this would create the possibility of a republican majority. and so i don't know, how i see these events as being interrelated and i was sort of right in the middle

also met with jack kemp comes against proposition 187. it is not the direction the republican party should go. there is that moment in 1996 people; poker become the republicand nominee. what if apo party it would be if colin powell had won the republican nomination 19 a six with no answers to any of those things interesting thing to think about tracks the idea of a historian who focuses on the things that didn't happen now but hips and proper historian. we have one more? well to mention the tea party message on george wallace. that got me wondering the extreme right of earlier decade george wallace under people and groups who are on the fringes but still important. but there any kind of connection between then and later conservative partisan from the '90s? and could i piggyback on youran question because that is a good question. one figure you treat very serious thing interesting way is also ross perot. it is an odd relationship of perot to this movement. he was not an ideological conservative. a if a wallace and perrault's key figures in

so, when president reagan and jack kemp and art lapid and -- stephen and all the others harness the power of ideas, harness the power of principles, went on offense and spoke truthfully and unapologetically, make one. we won. even the democrats at the time started talking about the need to reduce tax rates in order to help fix the economy. the heritage foundation analysis at the time called that the triumph of supply side. unfortunately, too many of today's conservatives are willing or are unable to argue terms of the first principles of our true north as well as president reagan did. we have truth and justice and fairness and other things on our side, so let's shouted and talk about it boldly and proudly. here to do just that, we have a very distinguished and fantastic lineup this evening that needs a little introduction. we will hear remarks from ed niece, attorney general and key adviser to president reagan, and the heritage foundations ronald reagan's distinguished fellow americans will hear from our clapper, founder and chairman of laughter associates, on a panel moderated by larry g

public housing reform with jack kemp, walter fauntleroy, all the others in those days, act subsidies which art about which people thought you could never touch. protecting the homeschoolers which i think to this day probably shut down congress more than any other project i've ever seen. but he just had remarkable success across a variety of issues and australia think of other house members were senators who left a legacy, who left behind such a big body of work i think maybe ted kennedy on the other side, may be senator gramm but there are not many. it's a very partial list. i think you can be proud of what you left behind. another difference is he truly didn't give a hoot what anybody thought. that gave him remarkable freedom. he did what he thought was right and what is conscious told them to do, and he couldn't be bent. lobbyists couldn't bend him. his donors in his district couldn't bend him, and he lost several of them because they tried and he refused. he told constituents what he believed, and in one famous encounter at a town hall meeting a guy just kept badgering him or some

public housing reform with jack kemp, all the others in thoseic days. agriculture subsidies which are about which people that you can never touch protecting those goals which i think to this they probably shut down congress more than any other project i've ever seen. but yeah, we just had remarkable success across a variety of issues and is trying to think of other house members were senators who left a legacy who left behind such a big body of work and to think that mayd kennedy on the other side, maybe so grandpa there are not many. today for a short list. you can be proud of what you left behind. another difference is he actually truly didn't give a hoot what anybody thought about. that gave him remarkable freedom. he did what he thought was right and what is conscious told them to do and he couldn't be banned. lobbyists couldn't bend him. his donors and his district couldn't bend him and he lost several of them because he tried and he refused. he told constituents what he believed, and in a one famous encounter out of town hall meeting a guy kept ba

and i think like jack kemp was there or someone answered the three of them are huddled on this couch in army's office, and we're kind of sitting across from him and a -- army's first statement as he said gentlemen. said there is not been as much brain power on that couch since i slept there alone. all right. here from -- army the great one of the greatest majority leaders in the history of the house of representatives -- army. thank you. thank you all. i just really want to make two points. the first is about the house of representatives. i came to know and understand that. this is the most unique institution in the cause of liberty and representative democracy in the history of the world. and i was so privileged. to be part of it. i learned to loveth the institution. i learned to love the people who loved the institution one of the people. whose president recurs in my book and one of the few people with whom i served whose approval i coveted. was senator bird from west virginia people think that's a strange choice? but i love senator byrd for the way. he loved the institution. and i

have a conversation about that plan and so we brought in art laffer and steve forbes and i think jack kempas there and they were huddled on the couch in the office and we're sitting across then dick armies first statement was gentleman, there has not been as much brainpower on that couch since i slept there alone. [laughter] >> now we will hear from dick army. one of the greatest majority leaders in the house of representatives. [applause] >> i just want to make two points. and that this is the most unique institution of representative democracy in the history of the world. and i was so privileged to be a part of it. i learned to love the institution and learn to love the people who love the institution. and those with whom approval i coveredro it was senator burke in west virginia. but i love senator byrd the way he loved the institution and in wanted him to remember me someone who did honor to the institution. i like to believe that i succeeded. when i came there the institution was run by regular order. the democrats are evil. we knew that. but a they ran a good ship as a good member of

i have been thinking about, lately is 88 r campaign, and fact that you had jack kemp running. and now jack was clearly the heir to reaganism, he was defeated but more importantly, he retired from congress, opened a huge vacuum filled by newt gingrich. if jack said in congress. high would have been speaker of the house, in 1995. no question. and so, i think that sometimes we think too much about things that did happen. rather than things that didn't. also there was a person article that bob woodward wrote a few years ago about how gingrich was actively engaged in defeat of george h.w. bush in 1992, i huge he saw the way the wind was blowing, he may have had some knowledge that bob michael was going to retire, he could see that all of these southern democrats were just on the brink of all becoming republicans, and this would create a possibility of a republican majority. and so i don't know, somehow i see these events as being interrelated. i was sort of right in the middle of it i worked in reagan white house, then i was over at treasury department we were involved in raising ta

the fact you had jack kemp running. now jack was clearly the air to reaganism. and he was defeated.ore importantly he retired from congress which opened up a huge vacuum that was filled by newt gingrich. if jack and state and he would have been speaker of the house. there's no doubt about that. i think sometimes we think too much that did happen rather than things that didn't happen. also there is an important article that bob woodward wrote a few years ago about gingrich was actively engaged in the defeat of george h.w. bush in 1997. the way the wind wasn't blowing he may have had some knowledge that bob michael was going to retireso. he could see all the southern democrats are just on the brink of all becoming republicans. this would create the possibility of a republican majority. somehow i see these events being interrelated. i was in the middle of it i worked in the reagan white house and i was over at the treasury department we were involved in raising taxes that was one of the very few reagan people survived. a lot of people did not forget that and it came back to haunt him a

i think jack kemp was there or someone. the three ofy' them were huddled on this couch in armey's arm at the front office. we are sitting across from him and dick armey's first statement is gentlemen, he said there is not been this much brainpower oc that couch since i slept there alone. [laughter] classic dick armey britton oberg are going to hear from armey one the greatest majority leaders in the history of the house of representatives, dick armey. [applause] [cheering] [applause] >> thank you. quick thank you all. i just really want to make two points. the first is about the house of representatives. i came to know and understand this is the most unique institution in the cause of liberty and representative democracy in the history of thei world. and i was so privileged to be a part of it. i learned to love the institution. i learned to love the people that love the institution. one of the people whose recurrence in my book in one of the few people with whom i served whose approval i coveted senator byrd from west virgi

i think jack kemp was there or someone. the three of them are huddled on this couch. we are kind of sitting across from them and dick's firstsa statement as gentlemen, he said there's not been this much brainpower on that couch i slept there alone. [laughter] that's classic. now were going to hear from dick armey one of the greatest majority leaders in the history of the house of representatives, dick armey. it. [applause] [cheering] >> thank you all. i just really want to makebo two points. the first is about the house of representatives. i came to know and understand that this is the most unique institution in the cause of liberty and representative democracy in the history of the world. and i was so privileged to be a part of it. i learned to love it, the institution i learned to love the people who love the institution. one of the people who recurs in my book and one of the few people with whom i served whose approval i coveted facet of the bird from westng virginia. but i love senator byrd for the way he loved the institution. and i wanted him to remember me that

. >> and his running mate to, jack kemp. >> and his running mate, jack kemp, afterwards, right. what an exciting time. >> we surprise that you are asked to give the address? totally. >> so before the days of -- i guess before cell phones, we were baptizing the baby -- so the children, both girls, were born on staten island. so sometimes we just couldn't collaborate. and we love our district so much. we wanted that piece of history to be with them. so i think they were baptized. and it was on bills announcement tour. the old guy, traveling with the wife and kid, and we would go down, and his district would say, he had six or seven announcements. when we were in a bar, with a bunch of friends, having dinner, my mother-in-law was watching the baby, and larry king was on. and i can't remember, my press secretary -- i think, i remember they had beepers back in the day? and they said, senator dole is going to announce that you're going to be keynote speaker. i thought i was close enough that at least i would get it at four in the afternoon, and that was great. and they said, do you kn

gingrich too and he was a guy with a few too many ideas and he fills that vacuum but also remember with jack kemp coming out against proposition 187 and he was like this is not the direction of the republican party should be going. and there's a moment in 1996 when people float the idea that colin powell could be the republican candidate. imagine if he won the republican nomination in 1996. we don't know howke that would have worked out or how it could have changed. we had no answers to any of those things. but it's a really interesting thing to think about. >> some of a the extreme rests f george wallace and other groups on the fringes but still sort of important. is there any kind of connection between them and sort of later sort of conservative partisans in the '90s? yeah. n.>> it's an odd relationship of palou to this movement because he was not an id logical conservative. if wallace and palou as key figures on this book were closing on and i'll read the last paragraph because it really tells us where this all ends up. >> wallace is a figure in the book because richard, the new right figure i

dick about that plan, and so we brought in art laffer, and i think it was steve forbes, and i think jack kemp was there or someone. the three of them were huddled on this couch in armey's office. we err ooh kind of sitting -- we are kind of sitting across from him. dick armey's first statement is he said gentlemen, there has not been as much brain power on that couch since i slept there alone. [laughter] classic dick armey. now we're going to hear from dick armey, the great -- one of the greatest majority leaders in the history of the house of representatives. dick armey. [applause] >> thank you. thank you, all. i just really want to make two points. the first is about the house of representatives, i came to know and understand that this is the most unique institution in the representative of democracy in the history of the world, and i was so privileged to be a part of it. i learned to love it, the institution. i learned to love the people who loved the institution. one of the people who recurs in my book and one of the few people with whom i served whose approval i coveted was senator bird

he was my immediate boss when i was an intern at jack kemp's relevant to the smoke is a dear friend of mine, he's happily married to a wonderful woman has three great kids but he was a great mentor of mine. i was an interest in dating. i spoke a business my welsh corgi jesse. i taken up running and talk at the time with chris matthews and we both know well. how do you keep your weight and? i said don't think about me is running. i was just interested i did want to date anybody i we said it's not them i me i'm sure the nice but ann introduced us. i drove up from new york city to a beautiful hamlet in the hamptons. george was renting a house that august 1999 and we finally met in january 1998. 19 months later i was still available. i wasn't dating and luckily george was a was a given. i call it intricate for sector i thought he was very curious and mysterious and i enjoyed his company but george then persisted. i thought what was different about him was that he came up with the charming ways to court me and you want to come to washington. i just want to sit here and pet welsh corgi watch

he was chief of staff to secretary jack kemp, and later he became chairman of the chesapeake enterpriseswned -- and served for the chamber of commerce. thank you for joining us. chair behnam: thank you for having me. jerry: they usually gain seats, they gain from a president from -- with a low approval rating. democrats seem to have shifted the momentum. now thomas things -- now, things seem to be taking a direction. it's a very close race, and our latest news poll shows you just how tight this race is in the swing states. right now it is from our polls, 47%-for the democrats in the united states. how is this different from other midterm elections? >> i want to say again, thank you for having me. this facility has become a very beautiful place. you are bright, this summer changed a lot. the dogs, supreme court decision came out in the summer and it looked like it would be real trouble for the republicans and then in august we had the trunk mar-a-lago race which put aside what is happening from a political standpoint, that little re--- literally dominated the news for seven days. everyone

bob --, a great guy, but he was losing his mind watching jack kemp talk about the tax hike. [laughs] and bob doyle, i gave him a copy of -- so we can give bob dylan as quickly in the hospital. but these were things, every one of the c e a chairman told me over lunch, where you and i used to commune as well in the staff table, that ronald reagan knew economics as well as anyone they knew. in fact, -- he knows our bag of tricks. he's got it down. and i want to emphasize, we sent two drafts in for this speech. but one that changed everything. and tip o'neill was laughing, all of washington was laughing, and mike -- said, you know, the president was pleased with the draft. well, mike, he ought to be. it was all his stuff. [laughs] for three months, he's been talking about this bill. he had been talking about it in formal situations and informal. once who was a terrific supply side leader, he could handle any speech, but in particular, he was a supply side trooper. he did this draft that had terrific descriptions of what was going on, and again, parts of the conservative speech w

and only a year after retiring, jack kemp won a congressional seat that he would go on to hold 18 years. the nba hall of famer bill bradley followed a similar path eight years later. retiring and represented the people of new jersey for 18 years. and jim bunning followed his 17-year baseball career recommending his state of kentucky. half in the house, half in the senate. homes? we've got head coaches, too. tommy tuberville representing alabama. topping the scoreboard with at least seven winging congressional seats including the hall of famer, steve schuller, and former first rounder anthony gonzalez from ohio state. there is nothing easy about running or winning a seat in congress. but looking at the box score, they are already running and winning with. >> and we have a special page on our website dedicated to the election. with voting guides to help you break down the key races. head to nbcbayarea.com/decision 2022. >>> do your children have their costumes on? they may need a jacket as well. jeff ranieri is tracking the forecast. we'll have the answer for us in a bit. >>> also, people