i don't know if you ever met jack kemp -- >> i did. larry: yeah.n, it was always a great experience. the guy was total energy, loved america. he was mr. growth and mr. supply side. okay. anyway, he used to always say stop blaming labor, to republicans. he would say, you know, why don't you bring labor into the republican party. by the way, it's not dissimilar to what mr. trump is trying to do, to bring working folks into the republican party at the polls in another month or so. but kemp would say is labor didn't destroy the value of the value and the money -- the thereafter and the money supply. labor didn't raise taxes. labor didn't cause all this inflation. that was done by the government, you know? so blame the government or blame the democrats who were running the government. of course, in the '70s it was both republicans and democrats who are inflationary. blame inflation, not the work worse. -- work force. they're just trying to survive. i think you see labor unrest break out in a bunch of places, i don't think it's because they're mean or th

this is what jack kemp taught us over 40 years ago.rnment and the goofballs running the government who cause inflation by printing too much money, and spending too much money. you are ready to make an amends will you ask forgiveness, longshoremen they just want to come out ahead in next 6 years. faulkender, i may come after you too. >> well, larry, i think you have 80% right. we don't disagree fundamentally, you are right. labor unrest, strikes. you know more and more workers falling, you know beneath the curve of terms of inflation that happens with the boughts of inflation, you remember, i remember, what happened in 1970s, you had all sorts of strikes because unions were so upset about 9 or 11% unemployment. even if they got 8% up cites increase in salaries, i agree, root cause of this is joe biden took an inflation rate to 9%. now, here is where i may disagree a little bit. i was talking with a good friend art laffer today reminding me ronald reagan of president he fired air traffic controllers, and against his -- what was in his ow

when i heard jack kemp speak about about policies that addressed poor, that spoke to that mexican catholic poor kid in me where i could dedicate my life. and there somebody who cared about it that talked about ownership and the human spirit and the value of lifting up all like i. i didn't just believe that i passionately committed my life to it. and, and that sorry. i kind of went down rabbit hole there because i really that's what still drives me is whether it whether and i'm not i'm not particularly, you know, committed to the policy on one side or the other to me is if somebody is hungry you can feed them. now without saying well you're you know, hurting this person we can talk about a longer term solution. but i guess what i'm saying is the republican changed and i know exactly the moment of when it changed the universality of where was really, i believe, trying desperately hold true to the creed that we are all by our creator. or when reagan gave the city on a hill speech, which was which was an immigration speech, republicans always stop that speech when he says windswept and god ble

1990 six debate between vice president al gore and former country of housing and representative jack kemp was one that fits that description, as was the 2000 debate between former secretary of defense dick cheney and senator joe lieberman . both instances where the candidates talked about respect for each other and were very civil in nature. to some extent, the behavior turns up on the format and whether it is supposed to be an open ended discussion where people try to barge in on each other or where it is understood that one party gets to speak for two minutes and then the other for two minutes. but i think that it also speaks to a decline in the level of civil discourse in our country, the fact that less and less we tend to each other and fairly engaged with each other and more and more people tend to listen to one side or the other than to really question as much as we should whether the statements that are being made are based on fear or another point of view into talk to each other in a way that we are not simply talking to each other but listening to each other. and i think that has

it fell apart and reagan was out of options, jack kemp was too younger. the one option i wish he had thought of was to go back to his 76 tour, dick schweikert, really good man, senator from pennsylvania, changed dramatically when he was reagan's running made in 76, he was a moderate republican the senator although he was great on captive nations, he was pro-life, pro-second amendment, he was weak on labor issues but that's understandable being from pennsylvania. he changed radically, he had become a very good conservative by 1980. with handford, dick allen and all those, and already tested and vetted and the good guy, wonderful family, no downside and helped unify the convention. >> an issue in new hampshire and detroit. to paul's question. bush gave a masterful speech at the reagan funeral, missus bush chose bush, wanted a president to speak at the reagan funeral, the national cathedral. and a clash of culture and bush was houston elitist, goes to school in a limousine. a great man, great hero of world war ii, they had lunch once a week, reagan tried but

jack kemp was too young. one option i wish she would have thought of was to go back really, really good man pretender from pennsylvania. he changed dramatically. his reagan's running mate and 76 he was a moderate republican senator. although he was great on captive nations. pro- second amendment. who is weak on labor issues is understandable being from pennsylvania.ly he changed radically in those four years he had become a very good conservative by 1980. wish i would've said to government reagan he's already been vetted, right? he's a good guy. got a wonderful family. there's no downside. it would help unify the convention. >> now we know we should've set in new hampshire. >> no, detroit. i'm sorry, back to paul's question, what's your question? i'm sorry, i'm sorry, i'm sorry, it was always uneasy relationship. bush gave a masterful speech at the reagan funeral. this iso bush specifically chose bush you want a president to speak at the reagan funeral at the national cathedral. i was there for the funeral wa

she got her start in in republican politics working for jack kemp. she went on work for reagan and while she worked in the reagan administration, she was working with mike deaver. you know, is is seen as sort of a mastermind of understanding the power of political imagery and and she went on to be successful in florida politics. and she also got in in a bit of a sticky situation. governor ron desantis office and that's also part of susie's story and susie's story with trump but when trump got back down to mar a lago, one of the first dinners that he had was with susie and it was, you know. they're sitting outside at the patio and trump asking him or asking susie all of these questions about. the 2020 race, how won florida. but the subtext of that whole conversation, how could i do this again? and she him through his findings and, you know, just and went back home and, you know, a few weeks later, trump called and asked her if he would take a look at his organization and he you know wanted to get things straightened out. and she said she would look ov

jack kemp was too young. the one option i wish he'd thought of. i wish he thought it was to go back to a 76 choice. the schweiker really, really good man senator from pennsylvania. and he dramatically when he was reagan's running mate in 76, he was he a moderate republican senator, although he was great on captive nations, was pro-life. he was pro-second amendment. he was weak on labor issues. but that's understandable. being from pennsylvania. but he had changed radically in those four years, he'd become a very good conservative by 1980. and i wish i'd been there in bush's suite, you know, with hannaford and -- allen, all those mike and others i wish i said, you know, said reagan picked schweiker because already been tested. you've been vetted. right. and he's a good guy and he's got a wonderful family. he's got there's no you a no downside and it'll help unify the convention. well, now we know what you should have said in new hampshire. yes. yeah, right. well, no, no. detroit. detroit. okay. but anyway, is that i'm sorry. back to paul's question

when i heard jack kemp speak about about policies that addressed poor, that spoke to that mexican catholic poor kid in me where i could dedicate my life. and there somebody who cared about it that talked about ownership and the human spirit and the value of lifting up all like i. i didn't just believe that i passionately committed my life to it. and, and that sorry. i kind of went down rabbit hole there because i really that's what still drives me is whether it whether and i'm not i'm not particularly, you know, committed to the policy on one side or the other to me is if somebody is hungry you can feed them. now without saying well you're you know, hurting this person we can talk about a longer term solution. but i guess what i'm saying is the republican changed and i know exactly the moment of when it changed the universality of where was really, i believe, trying desperately hold true to the creed that we are all by our creator. or when reagan gave the city on a hill speech, which was which was an immigration speech, republicans always stop that speech when he says windswept and god ble

i know jack kemp used to joke about how he showered with more black men in the nfl than most republican politicians had met in their life. 30 years ago i was in amar'e americorps where i roomed with two black men. my sense is the colleges and high schools are not doing a great job on this score and i would be interested in your thoughts on where are the places where our next generation are going to build these bonds across these lines? lucas: i'll jump in here. i along with glenn is part of academia in the states. i have been teaching for 25 years, at washington university. georgetown donated canal shares known at the time liberty academy, became washington college, his idea was for a national university to do precisely what you said. to draw from the entire united states, all walks of life. he wanted them to come to d.c. so they could observe how the sausage is made as it were. but what he wanted them to do was actually rise above local prejudices and opinions and develop a national consciousness. he wanted to make them americans. he needed, he thought that the country needed a unifyin

1990 six debate between vice president al gore and former country of housing and representative jack kemp one that fits that description, as was the 2000 debate between former secretary of defense dick cheney and senator joe lieberman . both instances where the candidates talked about respect for each other and were very civil in nature. to some extent, the behavior turns up on the format and whether it is supposed to be an open ended discussion where people try to barge in on each other or where it is understood that one party gets to speak for two minutes and then the other for two minutes. but i think that it also speaks to a decline in the level of civil discourse in our country, the fact that less and less we tend to each other and fairly engaged with each other and more and more people tend to listen to one side or the other than to really question as much as we should whether the statements that are being made are based on fear or another point of view into talk to each other in a way that we are not simply talking to each other but listening to each other. and i think that has bee

when i heard jack kemp speak about about policies that addressed poor, that spoke to that mexican catholic poor kid in me where i could dedicate my life. and there somebody who cared about it that talked about ownership and the human spirit and the value of lifting up all like i. i didn't just believe that i passionately committed my life to it. and, and that sorry. i kind of went down rabbit hole there because i really that's what still drives me is whether it whether and i'm not i'm not particularly, you know, committed to the policy on one side or the other to me is if somebody is hungry you can feed them. now without saying well you're you know, hurting this person we can talk about a longer term solution. but i guess what i'm saying is the republican changed and i know exactly the moment of when it changed the universality of where was really, i believe, trying desperately hold true to the creed that we are all by our creator. or when reagan gave the city on a hill speech, which was which was an immigration speech, republicans always stop that speech when he says windswept and god ble

trump in georgia side by side with governor kemp, the republican he repeatedly trying to overturn the results of the 2020 election. it all comes as jack smith laid out new agenllegations. mike pence was moved to a secure location on january 6th. trump responded, so what? trump denies all wrongdoing. >> hey, folks. >> reporter: president biden now with a blunt warning about the next transfer of power. >> do you have confidence that it will be a free and fair election and that it will be peaceful? >> i'm confident it will be free and fair. i don't know whether it will be peaceful. the things that trump has said, and the things that he said last time out when he didn't like the outcome of the election were very dangerous. >> reporter: donald trump was asked directly about president biden's comments. he said he could only hope this election would be free and fair. he would not answer if he believes it will be a peaceful one. george? >> george: let's bring in speaker of the house, mike johnson. mr. speaker, thank you for joining us this morning. in the wake of the asas natsassn attempts on donald trump, all sides wanted to tone down the rh

kemp. but also doug deucey. he's now talked publicly about what he went through and in this, he cooperated with jack smith and inere, we have damning paragraphs where he stood up to donald trump's urging to throw away the votes. this filing shows he walked through special counsel. there's a lot we didn't even scratch the surface on in terms of the fake elector's plot. >> and i want to go back to something said about the vice president who stood shoulder to shoulder with the president. what did he get in exchange? the most chilling exchange was the one we discussed in the last hour when an aide burst in where he's sitting alone having just tweeted the 2:24 p.m. tweet. his response is so what. as disappointing as that is for us to read, i wonder how it feels to people like mark short and greg jacob to spoke truth to power afterwards but also how it feels to mike pence to realize the sheer callousness, which certainly we knew before today, but to see it documented so starkly that he just responded to an aide with words that are tantamount to i don't care is really astonishing. and then of course that staffer who we