we heard this when jack kennedy was president was those tough boston politics. with john, it was those cowboys coming in. they want to get results. and if it takes tough guys to get results, they'll applaud. if you don't get results -- >> better tough than a pushover. chris: we agree. >> chris, the problem is not toughness. i do think this white house is in some ways more conventional than we were expecting. the chief of staff was quoted saying we're all campaign hack. i'm pro hack. we love hacks here in washington. i do think a people barack obama was going to be a mover in washington. chris: he's got these rules, no lobbyist, nobody can become a lobbyist. he's still sticking to some of this, right? >> yeah. his campaign hacks are going to play more. he's going to be a lot less capable because this is an election year to do a lot of the things of that he set out to do. >> one traction is whether the obama army turn out the in the midterms the way they did in virginia and new jersey last year. chris: before we break, let's go to "saturday night live" and how the

chris: jack condition did i learned after -- jack kennedy learned after the bay of pigs not to trust the military high command or the intelligence community baubs in the end there are no experts and you have to make the big call. how is he doing with the military? has he got the confidence of those guys? >> interesting. there was a lot of mistrust in the beginning. the military did not trust obama and he was very mistrustful of them and also the white house made it very clear they were not going to have more superstar generals. and when there was some -- when general mcchrystal spoke up in london, about how he didn't want to go in small in afghanistan, he was shot down pretty fast. but since the president has decided to send 30,000 extra troops to afghanistan, and came out in a big way, he's -- chris: how about the other way around? >> there is a real problem right now between the white house and the military. and that's this. the military pledged to obama's face to have 95% of the troops in country, in afghanistan, by july. that was what was needed for a true test of obama's plan so

you say that lew wasserman really didn't like jack kennedy that much. >> guest: right. c-span: how much was that due to the fact that his brother, bobby, was an investigator in congress with the mob? >> guest: it was due, i think, to a considerable degree because bobby kennedy was going after -- he was very focused on las vegas. and vegas was a place where mca did a lot of business and where wasserman had personal relationships, as well -- mo dailes, wasserman had known from cleveland. he was very close to him. and mo dailes was really the -- he was called the "godfather of las vegas. he had the desert inn. so -- and dailes was on bobby kennedy's top 40 hoodlums list. i mean, dailes hated kennedy. so i think that it -- i think it's true that wasserman didn't like the kennedys because -- in part, at least, because bobby kennedy was going after people like dailes, and also sidney korshak. c-span: there's a picture at the beginning of this chapter three, and at our back is lyndon johnson. it looks like the dining room on the first floor of the white house. you've got on th

would just like to say, rort frost once said to jack kennedy, be more bost and less harvard. and barack obama iequally as complex and complated as anybody else. and i would like to see hi be more chico and less establishment ian. >> lehrer: mnwhile, also this week, unid states supreme cot handed down this decion on campaign nance. some people sait's a huge catarophe. some peoplsay it's a blsing. freedom of speech issue, first amenent issue, a tragedy, a vtory? w do you see? >>t is the single biggest decion that the supreme court polically in my lifetime, everybody i talk toho is involved in campais, who has raised money potically said is terrified by it. >> lehrer: terrified. >>t's implication. erican corporations by irs's judgent in 2005 are worth $23 trilli dollars. barack obama raised $800 million. now if we are-- sai'm goldmasachs. and david is snsoring reg islation to t back my boses. and david's got a safe district i don't have to go after david. all i have to do igo after someone who is sponsing davis legislation. supporting david's legislion and i go in and spent $3 m

president obama the first president that came from congress since jack kennedy, knows what it's likest: good morning to our caller. caller: good morning, i have a question but i first want to preface it by saying that i admire president obama and it was nice to see republicans give him respect as the president. so many people have been negative towards him but this was nice to see. and that he understands that compromise means there is no real winner. the true nature of a compromise is when neither sides gets everything they want. and that leads to my question, why is there so much importance given to this çsupermajority o 60 votes. i don't really understand what the need for 60 votes is, and thank you for taking my question. guest: it has to do with the senate rule, to move to a vote, you have to get 60 votes to move to a filibuster. so that's increasingly important, they are kind of fake filibusters, and now they have changq the rules and can now go right to the clutching vote. where you need 60 votes to end the filibuster, so 60 is the new 51. and people say it's time to change t

jack case in watertown really made that name stick. >> host: you know, there are people who believe that names are destiny, that john kennedy would notave been john kennedy if he was mortimer dipthong. [laughter] now, if ray robinson, walker smith jr., is this -- do you think this somehow had a profound effect on his destiny as a fighter? >> guest: yes. i think he started living the name, sugar ray robinson. >> host: terrific alliteration, style, all the style resistance issues we spoke about in the first half hour, they shine through when your name is sugar ray robinson in a way that walker smith jr -- which is a name that sound sounds, as they say, a little bit country. >> guest: right. it does. >> host: it's a little different. >> guest: and the look of sugar ray, i mean, he would walk down the streets of fifth avenue, harlem, anywhere, and women would spot him, and they would say, sugar. hey, sugar ray. you know? real sweetly, you know? he just had the name, and he knew the name had a stylist cache to it, and he played on that. he really did. >> host: why do you think boxers like sugar ray, jack johnson, joe lewis, muhammad ali,

jack, democrat line. would you vote for marcella coakley this morning? caller: and every good democrat needs to get behind martha coakley and don't allow massachusetts to have a republican representative in a ted kennedy's seat. that is just a travesty. host: why do you think martha coakley lost the wide lead she had coming into this race? caller: obviously -- this weekend i was pretty much all of around the state and it seemed like all we heard on especially the radio was nothing but scott brown adds. everything was him all weekend. and i think what helped it, too, was that we have -- three weeks ago she had a 40% side lead. so, nobody ever expected to say, i don't think, to ever go republican. i don't think nobody really in massachusetts thought that scott brown had a chance. but i would like to say to the people of massachusetts, we put scott brown in and definitely you are telling people that we are giving away a woman's right to choose. everybody remember this in massachusetts when you are voting today that this vote is really important. and we need to keep the democrat in so we can get health care. host: here is the piece in of "usa today." it says -- but texas, james on independent line. good mor