i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy.eers] >> bill: all right. dukakis and benson went on to lose. they went on to serve in the clinton administration in what capacity? >> bill: lloyd benson was c treasury secretary. you got it he was the geithner. >> no, no. lloyd benson paid his taxes. >> bill: doocy, very g very good that will endear you to him. that was a time. >> let's end it there. got to go. [ laughter ] >> sucker. sit down. >> bill: do you want to come back? >> tie breaker, dagen, i'm giving it to you. >> who -- oh no, go ahead. >> bill: who was the producer of the kennedy-nixon debate that some say kennedy -- put kennedy in the white house. who was the producer? >> i have no idea. >> bill: doocy? >> d as in don hewitt. 60 minutes producer. i have got to give it to him. i hate to do it. don't cry. >> she threw it. >> i might be a chic but i don't cry. >> bill: you heard it. pinheads and patriots coming up next. p and p moments away. i love that my daughter's part fish. but when she got asthma, all i could do was w

going to get i think this the suggestion that we should raise taxes at a down economy is a poor jack kennedy said was that the deficit should only be incurred during times of national crisis. and especially when when when liberals oftentimes are concerned about people spending money the best way to help people spend money is to give them more in their pockets to spend we're not taking more out of their pockets which is what tax increases would do well but he will you know really tragic even when you talk about the same when you talk about the unions are not just talking about billionaires talking about people who made who are not billionaires those are the rich you know the definition of rich is far wider than a billionaire well you're going to start with the four hundred families and the four hundred individuals in america whose combined wealth is greater than one hundred fifty million of the rest of us and these guys are paying an average of seventeen percent in federal income taxes right now whereas the average school two family where you have two schoolteachers is paying over thirty perc

he had dinner at the home of jack kennedy and jacqueline kennedy and somebody asked him, you know, tongue and cheek if he had any ideas for offing fidel castro and he came up with this crazy plot and drop leaflets in the air and there was radiation in the air and the only way to be rid of the raidiers and all the castro's minions would shave their beards and lose their mystical power. he tried to track down ian fleming while he was still in washington. it was too late. fleming had already flown back to london. another method the cia considered was assassination. one idea was to assassinate not just fidel but also his processor raul and chi rivera. a more serious cia plan was approved by dwight eisenhower later in the month, march 17th, 1960s. the plan developed by richard biffle, the cia's famously brilliant who planned that some of the cubans who had been fleeing to florida was to return and overthrow him. and it was like a world war ii-style amphibious invasion. the plan was never that the 1400 men of the brigade were supposed to overrun cuba and somehow defeat castro's army of 20 or 30

. >> jack kennedy used to play golf and no one got pictures of him, but not this president. >> i expecty are going to try to limit that sort of thing, he may have some events he's going to do up there. >> by the way, bill clinton, who has a good reputation these days, used to go up there and have the first day picture with him and vernon walston, then he was left alone, maybe going into a store to buy a book or something. >> right, right, and he loved socializing, loved to hang around with the people he'd known at a distance all his life, celebrities, all the people, the movies he'd watch them in, that sort of thing. obama doesn't seem to be in that world, but these summer vacations have become political events now, because people -- every president no matter democrat or republican always gets hammered for going on vacation. it goes way, way back, eisenhower was criticized for being a part-time president because he went to gettysburg, his farm there so often, but there's an interesting history when the presidents do get away, there's sort of a star-crossed nature to it. look at all the

jack kennedy would play golf and nobody got a picture, but this president -- >> not any more. i suspect they will try to limit that thing but he may have events he is going to do up there. but the other interesting thing -- >> by the way, bill clinton has a good reputation. would he go there and have that first day picture of him in the golf court, with the big lawyer, and they had this snapshot. then you would see him going into a store to buy a book or something. >> and he loved socializing. he loved to hang around with the people he had known at a distance all his life. celebrities. all the people, the movies he watched them in and that sort of thing. obama doesn't seem to be into that world. but these summer vacations have become political events now because people, every president, no matter if it is democratic or republican gets hammered for going aby on vacation. it goes way, way back. eisenhower was criticized with the dnc chairman, for being a part-time president because he went to gettysburg, his farm there, so off then. goes on and on. but there is an interesting hi

this is how barack obama won, of course, how ronald reagan won, how jack kennedy won. or love, whether it's high hopes in jack or that great poster with the word hope and the bick further picture of the white house right now. just like the school year beginning anew. hope we can do better this grade this time. it will be a battle of hope, i hope between the candidate reps voters choose and the hope that oy bam will can do. yes, this is the shame of the battlefield, now who can play defense and offense, not the defense of this administration. it's a -- especially that 20% in the middle who hold the strongest promise of taking this country to a !tter history place. this isn't about playing it safe or tough, it's about who can convince a sales-resistant american middle of the roader that he or she has the stuff to turn this country around, to get us back on the track to greatness. a republican will promise that less government is better. he or she will say the smart move is to to have washington pull back into a dough could not, and leave the corporations, with automatic c

when jack kennedy was in power, arnold palmer was winning everything. he was the best. so good that the president wanted with a arnie to look at his swing and come play around. arnold palmer was a pilot and a hugely is successful businessman. he showed us what endorsements were all b he was most of all a competitor and a gentleman, and he still is as he approaches his 82nd birth day. we visit his home in latrobe, pennsylvania, he still lives there and also in florida with his second wife during the winter. right across from the golf course his father helped bill. with an office with enough awards to fill a museum, we began with a tour of so many memories and then a conversation about so many experiences. >> this is a norman rockwell. >> i'll tell you a little more about that. but that was done a number of years ago. obviously >> charlie: when you first said do i recognize this guy. >> i'm not sure anyone would recognize that. >> charlie: norman rockwell painted your picture. >> yes. >> charlie: not bad. >> this is a number of times i've been on sports illustrated. >> ch

that's how barack obama won, how ronald reagan won, how jack kennedy won, hope, it's not i'm in the moves hope. the man from hope, bill clinton, or the picture of the man right now in the white house, and so it will go as this political season gets underway in september, just like the school year beginning anew, it's about hope, it's going to be a battle of hope, i hope, between the candidate republican voters choose and what the hope of what obama will be able to do with a second turn of historic action. yes, this is the shape of the battlefield. not who can play defense and who can play offense, not the defense of this administration against the assault of the wrecking machine, it's a battle of two candidates convincing american voters, especially, that 20% in the middle that hold the strongest promise of taking this country to a better, historic place. i say this now because this isn't going to be about playing safe or tough, it's going to be who can convince america that he or she has the stuff to turn this country around to get us back on the track to greatness. the republican candi

mature, bobby kennedy who feels heavily the burden of having to defend his brother, the president, jack kennedy, who was vulnerable because he was having affairs with people in the mafia and even an east german woman that sort of thing. bobby kennedy had to have hoover's help to protect his brother, and compromised him in this three or four we dance he's going to try to protect the kennedy's political position in the south and -- and the alliance, to luther king. it's like riding razors come and ultimately, i believe hoover, without ever saying you've got to do this for that. they're far too skilled bureaucrats for that. they would say okay i will help you over here down the scandal against your brother. but i'm very concerned about martin luther king coming and we need this wiretap. and ultimately robert kennedy's mind that we're taught knowing that he was serving with it and pretense of controlling to get occur over. so it's very, very complex political wrestling match. c-span: how did they use the wiretaps and what did they learn through them about martin luther king and the rest of the grou

jack kennedy never had to talk publicly about gay rights. now all of the sudden everybody has to. everybody in politics has to. this also leaves the republicans or the conservatives that are leading the charge vulnerable. because if you are going to say, you know, you are against gays getting married and that you better make sure that your own marriage is on the up and up. >> host: we have five minutes left with the two authors. next is california. hello, caller, you are on. >> caller: yes, hello. i would like to say i've been a big fan of larry flynt for a long time. thank you for everything that you have written. i just am so excited about your book. i have a son. my question was i have a 14-year-old son. he's pretty mature for his age. and my question was if you thought his book would be appropriate, but he's an avid historian, he's very mature. after listening to the stories, it's so historical that i believe it's a perfect book for a budding historian. >> as far as the book goes, i think it's very much proper for a 15-year-old. i would like to add to that, you know, publickin

jack kennedy said i am an idealist without illusions. are many challenges we are still grappling to address. how do you make the world more open while respecting privacy? that is an important balance. important to get that right. how do we empower people without provoking enemies? how do we ensure technology enriches rather than the values the relationships and cultural roundups? these are hard and important questions. why does this have anything to do with television? in 2010 you paid adults that as much time watching television in four days as they did using the web in the entire month. television is clearly winning the competition for attention. you all represent the tv industry. on the other hand all of us -- you ignore the internet at your peril. it is fundamental to the future of television for one reason. it is what people want. ultimately what people want and they will get one way or the other. technologically the internet is a platform for things traditional television cannot support. it can make television more personal and par

he had dinner at the home of jack and jacqueline kennedy, and somebody asked him sort of tongue in cheek if he had any ideas for offing fidel castro, and he came up with this crazy plot that he would drop leaflets over havana advertising that radiation was in the air and that radiation tended to cling to men's beards. the only way to get rid of the radiation would be to shave the beards so, therefore, all of castro's minions would shave their beards and supposedly lose their mystical power. some tried to take this seriously, in fact, he tried to track down ian fleming while he was still in washington, but he'd already flown back to london. one idea was to assassinate not just fidel, but also his brother raul and kay guerrera, a sort of trifecta. a more serious cia plan was approved by dwight eisenhower later in the month, march 17th, 19 of -- 1960. the plan developed was to use some of the cubans who had been fleeing castro -- mainly to florida -- to return to cuba and overthrow him. originally, the idea was to infiltrate the men onto the island in small groups, but that was something mo

kennedy replied, bobby replied, you know, on this one the president is hard set. he's not going to pull out the troops. and so bobby said to jack, we're going to have trouble. but nobody else did. well, as it turned out, he was right. when the summit began, kennedy began with two proposals, two ideas. the first idea was to divide the world and, particularly, to divide europe. he said to kruschev -- and this is in the record -- as far as i'm concerned, you can maintain your position in east berlin, and you can maintain your position in eastern europe. we want to maintain our position in western europe, and we want to maintain our position in west berlin. khrushchev absolutely and totally rejected that. he said, you cannot prevent the people from acting as they want to act. then kennedy, basing on his briefings in washington, said to khrushchev, you know, we all have nuclear weapons now, we have to make sure that we avoid miscalculation that we avoid getting into a war as them a got into a war in world war i. khrushchev blew up. he jumped up, he said, i do not want to hear the word "miscalculation" again. what you are trying to d

kennedy about a little number on him by running. i wouldn't be surprised if some liberal person came out and took him on. >> steve: you might be right. but he did want to jack to the big board. what about john boehner? i know you were highly critical of the process. now that it looks like it's almost in our rear view, what sort of grade would you give him? >> i think he really worked hard. you could see it. he aged 20 years in the period of the last two weeks. he was in there -- >> steve: we all did. >> that's true. that's actually true. and i watched you guys. but he was in there pitching and really working hard. so i have to give him a for effort. as far as the bill itself is concerned, you know -- this goes for everybody, i heard 5 trillion. i heard 4 trillion. where is the none? there is no cutting. there is very, very little cutting. >> gretchen: you still didn't tell me whether or not you would vote for the deal that's on the table right now. >> i probably would not. there are too many things in there that i wouldn't vote for. one thing would be giving the president a pass on having it done correctly because basically i think that's really a mistake t