one of our strongest supporters was an actor named jack klugman. he had a tv show called "quincy ." we were worried that once we passed this bill out of the house, it might not go anywhere in the senate. we did not know where he stood on it, but there were rumors he might not be for the bill. the drug committees do not like it even though it helped them. they were a little embarrassed they had not done as much as they should had. jack klugman had a special episode of "quincy" written about having a bill for millions of people suffering from rare diseases, demanding congress act to give them hope and it was going to be stopped in the senate. i am not sure that was the episode they showed, but they had that episode ready to go if hatch was not going to be for the legislation. the other was we just needed to get people involved for fighting for those with rare diseases. are was a strong efficacy not only for the people suffering from the disease, but a television episode. , after it passed, the president was going to veto it. the secretary of health and ,uman services at the time said

jack klugman, tony randall, they were great. me and say something to jack and that started the story. and tony always said, "where was i?" i says, "it don't matter where you were you just come through the door." "well, i like to know where i was." [ laughter ] so i would make up crazy stories. once he came in and i said -- he was a portrait photographer. so i said you were taking a portrait of a dog, a dog died. it was called spot moskawitz. and this dog died and you went to the funeral and there were all these jewish dogs with yarmulkes at the grave sight and you shot it. and spot moskawitz you made famous. and it was such a good story i did it in a movie. [ laughter ] so you never know how -- it's called defensive writing. >> seth: there you go. >> you're defending yourself. >> seth: well there you go. and no one does it better than you. it's such a delight to have you here again. and i have to say, when i was at northwestern, every class i went to was in a marshall building. so thank you so much for that. and it's so lovely to