lennon. that's not bad. that is not bad at all. that's just for starter. >> those are the little folks. >> but here's the advice that jack par gave you, he said to you, hey, kid, when you do your show, don't do interviews. >> that knocked me over. i picked up the phone. the voice said it was jack par and i didn't believe it because he didn't call me. hey, kid, this is jack. let me give you some advice. please don't do interviews. i said what, do i do sing or talk to the guests in poetry. he said no interview q&a and what's your favorite this or that. david frost falling asleep on his clipboard and just make it a conversation. >> so he was -- don't do interviews, have conversation. >> conversation is best. when it becomes spontaneous and you're rolling along and you can throw your notes away. a friend of mine pointed my fault at, you stuck to my notes and i'd go to this one and this one whatever had just been said. >> you weren't listening. >> it wasn't that bad. >> it could have been, right? >> not listening, yes. >> so, look, i just read this incredible list, just for starters but it would be on anybody's dream list to have marlon b