economy jack lew was an early endorser of biden joins us now in an exclusive interview.afternoon thank you for joining us >> good to be with you, wilf >> do you believe that corporate taxes should go up do you think it will be popular and should any other taxes go up as well? >> well, i have to say that when we were debating corporate tax reform during the obama-biden administration, we proposed 28% and what i heard from the business community was they wanted 25% so 21% was never in the debate there's certainly room i think 28% is a perfectly reasonable place for the corporate tax rate to be and that's what i thought when i was be secretary it's what i think now t overall, if we want to be able to address the issues in this country that we need to address, we're going to have to make sure that we fix our tax code so that those who are doing the best, earning the most, pay a fair share of taxes. after the 2017 tax cut, the system got worse, not better. >> what about capital gains taxes, mr. secretary in fact, during the obama administration, the response from the last cri