i think the loss of jack mackey may have kind of emotionally closed lee up to more friendships because that really hurt deeply. yes, sir. >> jack, this is just out of curiosity. based with what you shared with us tonight about mary lee and her personality, did she have an lot in common with abe lincoln's wife, mary? >> question is did mary lee have a lot in common with mary lincoln? well, certainly outwardly you could see some of it. there is -- explosive is too loaded a word but there is a volatile temper and temperament. certainly a want of frugality. what a nice way to put it. beyond that, i mean i don't pretend to understand what really was -- what mary lincoln's psychosis was, if you can call it that. but there's no question they were both difficult for their husbands. they both caused their husbands embarrassment. worse, they caused their husbands embarrassment in front of their professional peers and colleagues. they would not have been good political wives, as is indeed mary was not. >> thank you all again very much. >> you're watching american history tv. 48 hours of programmi

i think the loss of jack mackey who was practically lee's alter ego, in a way. they were deeply close. i think the loss of jack mackey may have emotionally closed lee up toward friendship. that really hurt deeply. >> this is out of curiosity. based on what you shared with us tonight about mary lee and her personality, did she have a lot in common with a lincoln's wife? >> the question is did mary lee have a lot in common with mary lincoln? outwardly, you can see some of it. -- explosive is too little a word. a volatile temper and temperament. certainly, a want of frugality. , a nice way to put it. that, i don't pretend to understand what mary lincoln's psychosis was, if you could call it that. there is no question they were both difficult for their husbands. they both caused their husbands and there's. worst, they cause their bit -- husbands embarrassment in front of the professional peers and colleagues. they were not have been good political wives as mary was not. >> thank you. >> thank you all, again, very much. [applause] >> interested in american history tv