charlie: how about jack niklaus? what is your relationship with him?eve he is the greatest golfer to live? tiger: i think i'm pretty good, too. i think he and i would have a hell of a duel. i think right now i could kick his -- he's 71 right now. [laughter] charlie: 40 would beat 70. tiger: jack has always been one of my heroes. i looked up to him. lusted for hisou record? tiger: i wouldn't say lusted. i think that was the gold standard. he had one the most majors and the second most tour events. he was the most efficient at the highest level for the longest period of time. how did he do it? he didn't play that much. he played a limited schedule. he paced himself and tried to get ready for times year. he was better at it that anybody else that come along. here he is at 18. charlie: and you are at 14. you believe you will have more than 18. tiger: correct. charlie: and if you don't? you will say-- tiger: i didn't get there. charlie: you said it is in fact anything that i went from now is gravy. you know you are in the hall of fame, there are record book