we'll start with a look at a scene from "unbroken" starring jack o'connell as louis zamperini. >> lookt me. look me in the eye. >> i was whispering when the clip was running how much i hated this officer because he was so evil in this film. and i was asking her how difficult is it to get an actor, that's what actors do, of course, but to summon whatever you have to summon to play something that is so reprehensible. you were telling me about this guy. >> yes. i think he's so extraordinary. he was a rock star. we stalked him and asked him to audition. he did. he's a spiritual person and has two little kids. very, very loving human being. he hates to play violence, hates to be violent. i think that's what makes his extraordinary in the film. as much as you hate him, he's a complex -- he comes across -- he's pained and conflicted, and there's something wrong with him. it's not as simple as somebody who gets off on hitting people. there's a deep pain and -- and i think, in fact this real man, watanabe, he was sick. something of wrong with him to behave that way. >> how does one give directi