a lot of it had to do with jack parr. i was addicted to jack before i worked for him.ever dreamed i would, of course. at the called me before i did my first talk show he said -- i have a feeling you already know this. he said, look, kid. don't do interviews. i thought, what? do i read to them or sing? interviews. >> that's the q and a and what's your favorite this? and let me ask you about this and david frost and his damb clipboard and jet lag and question, question. make it a conversation. think. ? >> that's what makes it good. >> the audience carson had at its peak was double what letterman and leno combined were at their peak. it's credible how that viewership dropped. it did allow you to do these interviews you would never see before, including possibly your most infamous, maybe your more famous one which gorva dahl and. >> flanker. >> a correspondant? >> who would have thought the show that came closest to blows and violence and nasty words was -- would happen 2 three authors, a deadly word in talk item vision. somebody wrote when cavett says it's a show, he will

. >> i want to ask you some of those questions jack parr told you not to ask? >> shoot. >> who do you like the most? who have you liked the most of all of the people? >> betty davis, brando, arson wells and 100 more. one of them is a favorite but if you persist in your folly in pressing me with this, i would have to confess that groucho meant the most to me. >> who did you dislike the most? >> spiro agnew was a piece of nothing. it kills me i had him on, they put him on the show. this is before we had two criminals in the white house, the president and the vice president, a great moment in our history they put him on. said he has a good since of humor. we have a lot of cartoons. they cartoon him a lot. he will say funny things about them. he would look at one and say, the way they did your eyes in this one, interesting. >> that's 1 you don't want on your talk show. i have the anagram curse. i see them everywhere. i don't think about them. they just come. spiro agnew, grow a penis. and that's what spiro spells. >> how about phonies, people great when they were s