. ♪♪ >> welcome, i have a special guest, jack phillips. may know him, he's the owner of the masterpiece cake shop in colorado and had written an amazing book called "the cost of my faith" how a decision in my cake shop took me to the supreme court. welcome, jack, his lawyer is joining us and welcome, you guys. >> thank you. honored to be here today. >> just so my audience is aware, why is your lawyer with us on this interview? >> we are still in court, finished the end of march, we are currently waiting for the judge to announce his decision on that. >> for those who are fuzzy on the details, tell us, remind us what happened on july 19th where two men asked you to design their wedding cake. >> coming into the shop, they were both occupied, to sit down and the introductions, on my right, what can i do for you guys, it is for our wedding. i don't do cakes for same-sex weddings. making birthday cakes, shower cakes, i don't do cakes for same-sex weddings which point they went out of the store staring at me. i wasn't expecting that, and anythin

and you may know jack phillips the owner of the masterpiece shop in colorado rated and is just written"the cost of my faith" and how a decision in my cake shop took me to the supreme court welcome jack and his joining us as well jonathan and welcome you guys. >> thank you. it's an honor to be here today. >> kissimmee audience is aware, what is your lawyer with us on this interview rated. >> were still in court we just finished a trial in a third lawsuit and so we are currently waiting for them to announce a decision on that and so my lawyers here to help guide to make sure they don't say anything. >> right and good. and so, for those who do not remember who are fuzzy on the details remind us what happened on july 19th of 2012 went to gate man walked into your cake shop as you design it their wedding cake. >> it was a july afternoon it was sunny and bright and a couple of girls were busy and when these two gentlemen came into my shop, sat down at the wedding desk. and, talked with them and so we went over made introductions and more to my right, was david on the left was charlie and i s

today i have a very special guest, jack phillips. you may remember him, you may know of him, the owner of the masterpiece cake shop in colorado. and he's just written an amazing book called "the cost of my faith, how a decision in my cake shop took me to the supreme court." welcome, jack. his lawyer is joining us as well, jonathan scruggs, and welcome you guys. >> thank you, beckett. i'm honored to be here today. >> just so my audience is aware, why is your lawyer with us on this interview? >> well, we are still in court. we just finished in the end of march our trial, in our third lawsuit, so we're currently waiting for the judge to announce his [inaudible] on that. so my lawyer is here to help, guide me, protect me, make sure i don't say anything [inaudible]. >> right okay good. for those who are fuzzy on the details, remind us what happened on july 19th, 2012, when two gay men walked into your cake shop and asked you to design their wedding cake. >> yeah. it was a beautiful july afternoon, sunny and bright, and a couple girls work

>> will come and today i have a very special guest, jack phillips. you may remember him and know him as the masterpiece cake shop in colorado and he has just written an amazing book calling the cost of my faith how my decision took me to the supreme court. welcome. >> i'm honored to be here today. >> so why is your lawyer with us on this interview quick. >> we are still in court. we just finished the and of mard lawsuit so we are currently waiting for the judge to announce his decision on that so my lawyer is here to help guide and protect me that i don't say anything. host. >> those who are fuzzy on the details remind us what happened in july 192012 into game and walked into your cake shop and asked you to design their wedding cake. >> it was sunny and bright so when the two gentlemen it was my duty to see and talk with them. so we made introductions and they said were here to look at wedding cakes and i said sorry i don't do cakes for same-sex weddings and said make cookies or brownies or shower and at which point they stomped out and i wasn't expe

. >>> today i have a very special guest, jack phillips. you may remember him. you may know him, the masterpiece of the cake shop in colorado. and he's just written an amazing book called the cost of my faith how a decision in my cake shop took me to the supreme court. joining as his lawyer. welcome, you guys. >> thank you. honored to be here today. >> just so my audience is aware, why is your lawyer with us on this interview? >> we are still in court. we just finished on our third lawsuit so we are currently waiting for the judge to announce his decision on that so my lawyer is here to help guide and protect me and make sure i don't say anything. >> okay. good. for those who don't remember, who are fuzzy on the details, remind us what happened on july 19th, 2012, when two gay men walked into your cake shop and asked you to design their weddingd cake. >> it was a beautiful july afternoon. sunny and bright and a couple girls were working for me. they were busy in front, so when these two gentlemen came into the shop and sat down at the wedding desk, it was my dut

. >> i am becket cook and today i have a very special guest, jack phillips. you may remember him, you may know him as the owner of the masterpiece cake shop in colorado and he's just written an amazing book called the cost of my face how a division in my cake shop took me to the supreme court. d welcome jack and his lawyer joining us as well, jonathan. welcome. >> thank you. i'm honored to be here today. >> just so the audience is aware, why is your lawyer with us on this interview? >> we are still in court. we just finished part of the trial and the third lawsuit so we are currently waiting for the judge to announce a decision so the lawyer is here to help guide and protect me and make sure that i don't say anything -- >> for those who don't remember, remind us what happened on july 19th, 2012 when to gay men walked into the cake shop and asked you to design their wedding cake? >> it was a july afternoon, sunny and bright. a couple of colleagues working for me. they were busy up front. when the gentleman came into the shop it was my duty to go over and sit d

christian baker, jack phillips recently discussed the supreme court case over his refusal to bake a same-sex wedding cake. here's a portion of that conversation. >> the government gives us the option to go to court to defend these things as well in our government we have a constitution that her government is supposed to protect our rights and among them are the rights to free exercise religion. this is what that was it was a right because they did not want to create that message of the wedding cake and also a right to freely express my pain so the government is supposed to protect her right and when they weren't there is also our constitution where we are able to rule the court system like this and fight for these reasons. >> i think in the book you said your legal defense was the quote unquote rights of conscience of sense can you explain what that means? >> rights of conscience are asking me too create a message that is part of the speech but they're asking to make me create a message and to make the wedding cake is an iconic symbol is a message in itself, if you were to get a hotel and lo

is jack phillips and jack, i thank you so much o for being on the show. i think it will edify your daughter's faith that will encourage people to help people their own convictions about certain issues god bless you your trooper thank you for being on the show i am excited -- i look forward to hearing the outcome of this latest case for. >> thank you mr. cook. it is such an honor to be on your show today have a great day guys, you two. >> be part of the national conversation affects you and your community has $100,000 grand prize of $505,000 but entries for the competition will be received wednesday september 8. for competition rules, tips and more information on how to get started visit our website at student cam.org. >> welcome to pmp live, along with my wife, we have a program this evening featuring two "washington post" journalist, here to talk about their new book nightmare scenario. how the trump administration so poorly and tragically miss manage the coronavirus pandemic. a couple of brief housekeeping notes first, to p

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today i have a very special guest, jack phillips. may remember him, you may know of him, the owner of the masterpiece cake shop in colorado. and he's just written an amazing book called "the cost of my faith, how a decision in my cake shop took me to the supreme court." welcome, jack. his lawyer is joining us as well, jonathan scruggs, and welcome you

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