white political -- democratic political machine run by a name that some of you might recognize, jack pollack and that was done in 1954 when harry coal ran as a state senator and harry coal ran as a republican and beat him and he was back and bank rolled and also helped by the ladies that had been pulled together. to me, this is the turning point so far as black politics went because to that point, blacks who had been nominally sort of dealt crumbs from the table, if you will, and at this point they forced the democrats to take them seriously and take them as -- you just change the -- i was going to change the deflection but change the landscape of politics in the city thereafter and he reacted immediately the next year running as black candidate for the fourth district and four years later knocking off harry coal from the state senate with a black candidate of his own. any way, i bit off a little more than i could chew here but -- >> okay. so, real quick, my fellow panelists, folks in the back want to see your lovely faces so when you do speak, if you could stand, if that's okay so it sounds

political -- democratic political machine that was run by a name that some of you might recognize, jack pollack. and that was done in 1954 when harry cole ran against pollack, state senator by the name of mall nick cough. and he beat him. he was banked and back rolled by willie and also helped by the ladies that victorine had pulled together. to me this is the turning point so far as black politics went because to that point blacks had been nominally sort of dealt crumps from the table, if you will. and at this point they forced the democrats to take them seriously and take them as a -- it just changed the -- i was going to say changed the complexion, but changed the landscape of politics in the city thereafter. pollack reacted next year running a black candidate for city council from the fourth district. and four years later knocking off harry cole from the state senate seat with a black candidate of his own. anyway, i bit off a little more than i could chew here. that sort of i think is the turning point for politics, although there's a long history. >> what time do you all want to leave? >>