negotiations to declare independence for the six million people in the north of the country and jack rice this kicks off a whole new can of worms down the road doesn't mean the the kurds want to country is it going to happen yeah you know if you're right the fear is that this is a ripple effect we're talking about six million people who are kurds in northern iraq but there's another six million or so in iran there's another couple million in syria there's fourteen and a half million in turkey there's some in armenia i mean the fear is that if one gets independence what about the others what's the possibility of a larger greater sort of this is you i'm going to we're going to have already said they go to war i don't mean to interrupt you but there's an issue of loyalty here is that what you're bringing up i mean what about the what about the kurds in syria who are already autonomous. yeah that's exactly the point is that if one starts to get truly autonomy and really a country of their own does this mean they actually band together remember the turks have already said they will go to war o

reporting from sherman china for more on this we go to former cia officer jack rice jack nice to have you with us does the h.-bomb really intensify this situation do you think the united states do they have this capability. no they didn't think that they had this capability understand the difference between you're no normal bomb if you will your normal atomic weapon and an h. bomb is about a thousand times i mean that's how big we're talking about and the real purpose of this is when you have something that's that powerful you essentially can miniaturize it to the point to put it on a missile again as we've discussed you and i one of the things that you need in order to make this a viable threat is you need to have the atomic bomb if you will of sorts and you also need a delivery system and you need both of those to work in concert if you have one but not the other then it doesn't particularly matter or at least doesn't can't be used to threaten the united states directly if you have both then you do that's the difference it seems like the united states is out of options in fact kim j

abdullah from which is a kurdistan media network and former cia officer jack rice. it is actually kind of surprising for iraqis the kind of harsh rhetoric we are hearing from president add on because as you know that turkey and the kurdistan region have had excellent trade and economic relations over the past few years that he has that he's in a fight against all the kurdish people and what is he said recently he's the rationale behind opposing this referendum apart from the fact it is held by a group of people called the kurds theories that this is a ripple effect we're talking about six million people who are kurds in northern iraq but there's another six million or so in iran there's another couple million in syria there's fourteen and a half million in turkey there's some in our media i mean the fear is that if one gets independence what about the others what's the possibility of a larger greater kurdistan if one starts to get truly autonomy and really a country of their own does this mean they actually band together remember the turks have already said they wil

we discussed the potential consequences of washington's pressure on iran with former cia officer jack rice as well as to iran based political analyst is liable most of our cost gesture. unfortunately we have to realize that it's the p five plus one everybody agreed not just the brits and the french the russians the chinese the americans if we pull out of this it's the entire world will be looking at the united states i agree that there are limitations and problems in fact you could expand upon this and it needs to be but to walk away from this deal in itself would be a huge error at this point we're on has many components of power including its nuclear industry missile power and regional prisons and military clout and influence in the region what they mean in washington is to wear off these components of power once they do so iran would be a very easy target like iraq at the time of saddam hussein and that would mean. fundamental violation of the nuclear deal and iranian officials including the rayney and supremely there are they have all warned that iran would give them a very tough respo

aggressive and insightful jack rice is there a chance as we've heard both china and russia talk about the need for a diplomatic solution if the united states were to take a military response or interaction with north korea who's to say that russia and china wouldn't think that is clearly the wrong thing to do and who knows where this is going you figure that in any way at any level. you know and i'm petrified petrified of what this might mean we're looking at more than twenty five million people in seoul and the surrounding region we're looking at. twenty five or thirty million people in north korea and let's think about what the president says we could utterly destroy so we're talking what we're going to kill five or ten million people that's that's an american approach and the problem is what happens if that were to happen i mean obviously what it does not just with the north koreans and south koreans let's add the japanese let's add the chinese let's add the russians into this issue and you realize that this is something that's so much bigger than this one little country and when t

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