of course, jack robinson was not william f. buckley conservative but definitely a republican but who cares? to me, his faith was beautiful. >> host: speaking at the national prayer breakfast you have the book here? >> two years ago i had the honor to be chosen to speak in front of the president, first lady, vice president and congress every big shot at the national prayer breakfast the honor of my life. i did not taken lightly. i knew as soon as i was invited it was not about me that god has something he wants to share with everyone there if they agree or disagree politically. i would not use the occasion to embarrass the president but to reach out to him with some thoughts or ideas that is what i intended to do. it is online at eric metaxas.com it was a crazy morning. the background story is a crazy story. talking to joe biden and having conversations with people then something very happened very funny then finally singing amazing grace of the belli did not know i would do that but i thought i have to right this. is a long ess

jack wilson. they needed a ride. could they use the telephone. >> kay refused to let wilson inside. >> kay robinson called 911 and the delaware state police did respond but didn't see anything out of the ordinary, so they cleared the scene without any further investigation. >> thinking everything was all right, kay went back to bed. a half hour later, she was awakened again by a noise in her kitchen. that's when she saw the same man she had seen on her porch in her kitchen, holding a butcher knife. he chased kay through the house, grabbed her bit arm, put a knife to her throat and told her to follow his orders. if not, he said he'd kill her son who was in the adjoining bedroom. >> from that point, what little she could do, it was just completely three hours of torture, just horrific torture that she endured. >> after sexually assaulting her, the man told kay that he lived in the same mobile home park and had two children. then he stabbed her. almost 30 times. and left her for dead. before leaving, the perpetrator checked on kay's son, who pretended to be asleep. when the man left the house, kay's son rushed to their

very few people know the whole story of jack robinson, what an amazing story. the central piece of that store most people don't know. .. c-span: jane holtz kay, when was the last time you owned an automobile? >> guest: 1991, when i began this book and dispensed with the automobile. c-span: you actually got rid of it? >> guest: oh, yes. i actually was at a lecture at george washington university in st. louis, and someone in the audience said to me, 'do you have a car?' and it was kind of--the duck came down. 'oh, i'm only going to get asked this question again and again.' so i sold the car and it was a very positive experience, but i was prepared, if it hadn't been, to have gotten the car back again and written a different book. c-span: where'd you get the title "asphalt nation?"