jack schmitt was on apollo seven as an actual geologist who taught the other astronauts and he was originally scheduled to go on apollo 18 which was canceled and he had argued that apollo 18 should land on the far side of the moon and put up a communications satellite and he was arguing that in 69 for the 70s, and the chinese ended up doing it. they want to nominate the moon. india is doing interesting stuff as well and i was going to mention it was privately funded. it was founded by entrepreneurs and built by a private company. unfortunately it crashed on the mound but he did get to the moon and what is interesting coming and this is something i have to talk to you if i can get buzz aldrin who's got a chapter, he advocates the idea of a cycler and that is the idea that you basically have a spaceship that goes out to the mound and then kind of gravity swings back to the earth and sort of stops and gravity swings back it's a little more difficult to do but what is interesting is the sort of use that concept because what it did is started off in earth orbit and then went out like this and like