please help me welcome diane and jack schneider and jennifer berkshire. >> thank you so much printed to collate and a great pleasure to be with you here in seattle once again and this might third trip to seattle but my first virtual trip. and it's great to see you all. i'm thrilled to be able to talk with jack and jennifer both of whom are wonderful writers. and great allies in terms of public education. and ultimately the subject of a movement to really underlined displaced public education. so let me personalize again by asking jack and jennifer questions about the book. you wrote your book during the last year of the trump administration. when betsy was the secretary and she was the greatest that is ever how the role secretary of education. she any ways the personification of the wolf that you write about. it was a wolf now. jack: that is a great question diane and i am so glad that is coming from you. because in any ways, you are the person kind of showed us the way. and began to make an argument do something scary was happening in the public education. this is been going on for

jack schneider is an award-winning education historian and author of three books. his last beyond test scores a better way to measure school quality was released in 2017. he cofounded the massachusetts consortium for innovative education assessment. and he's an assistant professor of leadership in education at umass-lowell. diane ravitch is a research professor of education at new york university and destroying of education she served as assistant secretary of education drink administration of bush and his offender president of the network for public education. she's author of 13 books, editor of 14 14 others and is writtr 500 articles and reviews are scholarly and popular publication she recently reviewed this new book for the new republic and the book is entitled "a wolf at the schoolhouse door: the dismantling of public education and the future of school." and it's the subject of tonight topic please join in welcoming diane ravitch in conversation with jack schneider and jennifer brookshire. >> thank you so much. it's a great pleasure to be with you in seattle o

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journalist jennifer was education jack schneider argue political rights trying to dismantle public educationitical look at the time as one road initiative that spent hundreds of millions of dollars the infrastructure of the countries around the world. that starts now on book tv. find more information booktv.org or consult your program guide. >> we are very happy to welcome grace homestead, to talk about her new book called uprooted it's coming out in a couple weeks but you can preorder from amazon. you should front light out, it's an amazing book. this is written for a number of publications including the book of the physical, it's focused on themes deflected in this and also has a remarkable wonderful newsletter

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