i think jack smith is that he certainly projecting that jack smith by reputation is a hard driving prosecutor to you. >> ryan goodman a former special counsel at the department of defense, and a professor at nyu. >> he has gone after a political corruption on both sides of the aisle democrats and republicans, he is also somebody who served as a war crimes prosecutor and has indicted a sitting president in kosovo so here's that kind of an individual that moves fast and moves aggressively at the same time that also might come with some risks why is there some criticism that he overreaches? well, if you look at jack smith's history, his three highest cases for this, all of them have failed either at the trial level or the appellate level. and so the criticism is, well, he's overeager, he's over anxious what is going to be one of the toughest hurdles for jack smith's team to overcome everything in this case will turn on what donald trump's state of mind is and whether there was corrupt intent. all the facts they play down on national television the speeches have been played millions of times. >>

was it a bit of an unforced error by jack smith? little bit, they could have done it a different way. would other judges have done what she did? probably not. >> we have to speak frankly, though, about whey think is not even a double standard here. to bradley's point -- and i'm very respectful of process, right, there's a procedure that has to be followed, but in this instance, this motion wasn't filed on an emergent basis, but it does allege something that is of serious security and safety for law enforcement officers who executed a dually authorized search warrant that was approved by a magistrate judge and was done in coordination with the united states secret service. and so in order to be able to curb what is happening with trump, is there a fear that there's going to be a first amendment issue that's going to be raised by trump's defense? >> well, i can't believe i'm about to say this, but i disagree with brad. bradley, i think this is something that is absolutely outrageous. i think this is the kind of thing that is going to

clearly, jack smith thought otherwise. standby. we're continuing to follow this breaking news. we have much more on this going on. this breaking news that jack smith, the special counsel in his prosecutors are now asking for a gag order in the classified documents case, something we have not seen yet today. it is all because of comments that you just heard the judge sayyed right there, that trump made and funny fundraising emails that he has made on truth social, that his allies have repeated on their own social media websites and on television. stay with us. we'll be right back with the breaking news one of the most active 22 seasons, you can't control a what kinds of interventions can we design? go inside the store. >> premiere of one and earth with liev schreiber, june 2 had nine on cnn for the most comfortable luxurious eco-friendly, and affordable handcrafted american-made mattresses on the market today, delivered and set up in any room of your house saada luxury mattresses made in florida's? >> i'm certain it's level five or years for imprints certainty matters for imprin

then we get this order which was remarkably insulting to jack smith.t is par for the course. i have seen judge cannon. i tweeted bradley that this is a form over substance issue. she could have set a hearing after doing a very quick briefing schedule on this. didn't jack smith confer with donald trump's lawyers and say we don't think it is an emergency in. >> comes back to the phrase we have been talking about since the beginning. so yes. there were alternate options judge cannon could have taken here. she could have asked jacksmelt's team to submit declarations about the nature of what they viewed as the threat from these statements from donald trump. that was a path she could have taken. she chose not to. she didn't do what donald trump wanted which was immediately order some kind of sanction hearing. but she did basically tell jack smith, go back, do at least something to show me you quote unquote conferred with donald trump's team and provide me with something more. put more meat on the bone before you bring this to me in a non-emergency form. is t

what does jack smith want judge cannon to do here? >> as you heard from julie, it is a modification of your bond condition. any criminal defendant who is arrested and being prosecuted has bond conditions, and they vary. not only do you have to post a monetary bail amount, but when you are out on public release and are not in custody pending a trial, you have to behave. what you hear from special counsel jack smith is, we are not trying to limit donald trump's amendment right to free speech. but, there is the rub. when you are a criminal defendant, that cannot run counter to justice, and the fair and proper administration of justice, and jack smith is calling out trump for his post and the ability -- the fact that he has the ability to expand and amplify potential hatred, violence, and some really wrongdoing against members of law enforcement because donald trump knows that he is lying. he is lying about what happens and the conditions for that search warrant that was executed on mar-a-lago back in august of 2022. >> so, this motion, i

he works for jack smith that statement is representing jack smith who walked all over the due process former governor of virginia, is pretty laughable. and that same court within different makeup of justice eight -- zero, one or accused voted unanimously that jack smith was way out of line. that's another example. we will be right back. i am jon scott now back to "life, liberty & levin." ♪. mark: will come up america. jim trusty it's not by accident all these issues of first impression these constitutional issues have been raised in the course of the last few years. since a biden was elected democrat party took the department of justice das have been doing with the das have been doing. it is like a full court press in the constitution, issues of first impression that slam againslammedagainst the wall. i want to raise one wi reason w. the pardon power. just just raise the question we do not even know if the president can pardon himself. i do there's nothing in the constitution at all that prevents a president from pardoning himself it is a plenary power that is unchallengeable. but the

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another person who knows all of this is special counsel jack smith. he's asking for a new court order blocking donald trump from statements that endanger law enforcement statements and he called the statements false and imflammatory and he explained as trump is well aware, the fbi took extraordinary care to execute the search warrant and scheduling the search of mar-a-lago when he and his family would be away. they're all back with me. glenn, i think this is so important for us to understand. let's start with the fact that this language is standard protocol. explain more on that. >> every law enforcement agency, every law enforcement officer, when they on an operation, whether it is executing an arrest warrant or searching a premises, they're entitled to use deadly force when to repel a deadly attack or to protect the safety and lives ever others. so this was entirely routine. run-of-the-mill as the attorney general and others said. but i'll tell you, jen, the most infuriating part is when i read the 12-page filing from jack smith and two things that

you know, i think the most egregious case of all of the misconduct is jack smith if's classified documentsd documents that smith tampered with evidence ask is was forced to admit it to the judge. yes, your honor, documents were altered, we manipulated those records. and, no, we destroyed exculpatory evidence that would have helped donald trump. he also anytime canned in a a boot note, gee, mys led you and i -- misled you and i deceived you, your honor. separately, the fbi planted some of the evidence at the scene. maria: wow. >> classified cover sheets, and then they staged photographs of it. that's not all. turns out joe biden's white house engineered the charges against trump instructing the national archives to file a criminal referral to biden. 's justice department and all the while biden and his lackeys were trying to cover up his own classified documents scandal. maria: unbelievable. >> i think that is the worst abuse of justice. maria: gentlemen, we'll continue the conversation. thank you, matt whitaker and gregg jarrett. i want to wish everyone a happy mother's day. happy mother's

i felt that way about jack smith and aileen cannon.warrant becomes a legal mess and the beginning of this case's existence is before a very conservative circuit court and then in a -- because she botches it. it seems to me, again, not a lawyer, but it seemed from the beginning, that this was ill- fated if your goal was to hold him accountable for the crimes you have indicted him for. >> you know, i actually, as you know, i am someone who can tell you if i think the department of justice made a mistake, but i actually do not think that jack made a mistake here. i think he played it straight. i have been on high-profile cases, where the issue is what venue should you pick and the overarching issue is to play it straight. where are the facts that sort of form the crime? where did they occur? that principle is in the constitution, that you should be tried where the crime occurred. here, only in the district where judge cannon is one of three judges, is there for all of the crimes charged. some of them might have been able to be charged els

jack smith will have two options. if judge cannon sits on this, he could seek a writ of mandamus to go over her head and have the 11th circuit intervene because it's a condition of release. even if she does rule and denies that, again, he can immediately appeal that under the federal statute to the 11th circuit. i do not expect judge cannon to sit on this. i think she will move decently in terms of timeframe. the question is how long does she take to actually rule on it and how long can jack smith wait? it's a rare opportunity his head in this case to potentially dangle going over her head. the last was jury instructions and she backed up. was she do something here that gives him the opportunity to take her down and have her removed? i don't know but it will be interesting to see. >> joyce, to bradley's point, there's this game of chicken but this chicken going on between the government and judge cannon. even if she ends up denying it, would not be the first on the 11th circuit has bench slapped judge cannon for makin

meanwhile, special counsel jack smith is still pursuing his case against president trump.torneys called for the indictment to be tossed citing hur's decision not to charge biden. and former vice president mike pence admitted he kept classified documents after he left the white house. the doj declined to charge pence, closing the case last year. then this bombshell, the fbi admitting the misrepresenting the, documents they claimed to have taken from trump's estate, mar-a-lago. joining me now with more on this "sunday morning futures" exclusive is former prosecutor himself john ratcliffe. john, thanks finish very being here -- very much for being here. >> morning, maria. of. maria: i'm going to get to this mess representation by the fbi, but first, give us your legal aspect, legal perspective of the manhattan department a.'s trial right now for donald trump -- d.a.'s trial for donald trump. >> welsh or it's been a train wreck for the prosecution. look, every witness that they've called so far has been a witness intending to harm donald trump and, in fact, in every instance t

. >> if you're jack smith, do you try to somehow appeal it to the 11th circuit and get her booted? hook that jack smith has for an appeal would be if judge cannon were to make rulings that he didn't like when it comes to whether donald trump can use classified information at trial. he's got a right to appeal those. of course, we're in that pre-trial phase where the government needs a special hook to take an interlocutory appeal. most sorts of issues have to wait until afterwards. so, i think what jack smith has been waiting for has been these rulings on the classified information. >> she's never going to rule. >> and that is one of the issues -- right. she suspended that this week. those responses were due this week. out of the blue, she gave trump a continuance. and so, for jack smith, i suspect he's now regretting the fact that he did not try to recuse her early on when he could have. >> yeah. >> as the great lawrence o'donnell says, eugene, the bribe is implied. she wants to be on the supreme court. she thinks she can get on if donald trump wins. she'll kill this case. catch and

why do you think mike johnson won't defund jack smith?ell, mike johnson is owned by the democrats. and that that proved me to be right again when i called the motion to vacate, it wasn't republicans that saved mike johnson. it was democrats that saved mike johnson. and when you have nancy pelosi, who was speaker of the house when they impeached president trump twice, and you have jerry nadler, who was chairman of the judiciary committee that led the impeachment against president trump, voting to save mike johnson. that tells the american people everything that they need to know. mike johnson is owned by the democrats and refuses to protect president trump, even though he runs down to mar a lago every chance he gets. and hugs him as tightly as possible. well, look, we all know how the democrats see this. hakeem jeffries, the minority leader in the house, was on 60 minutes last sunday. and here's what he said. let's roll it. even though we're in the minority, we effectively have been governing as if we were in the majority because we contin

what is prosecutor jack smith asking for? i understand merrick garland has now taken from's comments very seriously, so what was his response? >> that's exactly right, alex. jack smith overnight filing the first of its kind motion in this specific case, the classified documents case, alluding of course or concerning the search that happened at mar-a-lago two years ago in august 2022, when authorities grabbed hundreds of classified documents that were in the possession of the former president illegally. so you have overnight jack smith actually asking the judge overseeing that case, judge eileen cannon, to limit, to impose a sort of modified gag order on what donald trump can and cannot say when it comes to law enforcement, in terms of the public statements that he makes. this comes of course after this week the former president falsely insinuated that president joe biden may have ordered an assassination attempt on him when fbi agents were conducting that search. he said, quote, that bidens locked and loaded, referring to tha

and what options if any does special counsel jack smith have now? and then we have the proceedings that we have been glued to all week in new york, stormy daniels will return to the witness stand again tomorrow for donald trump's hush money case after a day of compelling testimony that sparked a mistrial demand from trump's lawyers. and audible cursing from the former president himself. what will she tell the court next, and does any of that directly implicate donald trump when it comes to charges he falsified business records. we've got a whole lot to cover for you. we're going to start with the latest today. joining us right now, we have nbc news correspondent, blayne alexander, political reporter at the "atlanta journal-constitution," and msnbc contributor, greg blue stein, and msnbc legal analyst, catherine christian. blayne, we're going to start with you, and get to the news out of fulton county today, donald trump's appeal of a decision to keep d.a. fani willis on his election interference trial, it is going to be heard. remind us of the rulin

and of course we have jack smith also potentially lying to the court about the documents and whetherr turned over and represented properly. i hope she's going to take her time when they're trying to put the president of the unit in jail. liz: what do you think, sam? >> any lawyer wants the judge to move more quickly and the person in this case jack smith bringing the case and has more control over simply or complex and second point is that this may be about the order judge cannon entered and what she ordered in evidentiary hearing and the prosecution team extended to the white house and based on recent disclosures about white house involvement with the archives, do the discovery obligations of the department of justice now extend to the white house because they were effectively part of the prosecution team. there's an evidentiary hearing on that and they don't want that. liz: got it. terrific analysis from sam due deweyand francey hakes. we appreciate you guys so much. congresswoman marjorie taylor green's bid to oust speaker johnson failed but gop turmoil continues and former presid

nbc news reports that at the rnc spring meeting in florida, trump called special counsel jack smith deranged and an evil thug. and compare the biden administration to the secret police force of nazi germany saying, these people are running a gestapo administration. and started with the recording of the national anthem performed by none other than

, the judge presiding over his classified documents case in florida has denied special counsel jack smith's request to impose a gag order on the former president over his false accusations on social media that the fbi's search at mar-a-lago involved an attempt by the biden administration to assassinate him, completely false. a fund-raising email last week falsely claiming the doj was authorized to shoot him and president biden was locked and loaded and ready to take me out. district judge aileen cannon chiding prosecutors saying that they did not give defense lawyers adequate time to discuss the matter before it was filed

special filing from special counsel jack smith. fbi agents were involved in a plot to assassinate him during their search of mar-a-lago. this filing says trump's statements are blatantly false and expose fbi agents involved in the classified document casee to the risk of threats, violence, and harassment. here is reaction from one cofounder of the anti-trump lincoln project. >> i nearly escaped death from donald trump. he is basically accusing the government of trying to take him out. and, you know, can million people get this email. i don't know how many people get this email. all it takes is one or two to shoot somebody. hey, the government is trying to shoot my president. i am going to fight back. and it is absolutely appalling. >> julie sirkin is joining me now at the very latest. to me all about what prosecutors are asking for here. >> reporter: it is comments in that email from the filing late last night to judge aileen cannon, the judge overseeing of course trump's classified document case that had asked because of trump's c

they're going to take this and believed this so i think jack smith from what i'm seeing is absolutely right. and i think that judge cannon should take it quite seriously. he's right to pursue this she should take it seriously and i'm thinking in terms of a

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newly unsealed filings from the judge who oversaw jack smith's grand jury is citing strong evidence that the former president illegally intended to hide boxes at his mar-a-lago estate. the unsealed information from that federal judge revealing that even more classified documents were found inside donald trump's bedroom at mar-a-lago, months after the initial fbi raid. the chief judge writing, no excuse is provided as to how the former president could miss that classified material. revealed in newly unsealed court records, never before seen photos of walt nada moving

. >>> special counsel jack smith seeking a new gag order against former president trump. his urgent appeal to the judge in the documents case to stop trump from making false statements about law enforcement on social media. smith saying the former president put the agents in danger by making false and misleading statements about the fbi search at mar-a-lago. >>> also tonight, the emotional homecoming for a pennsylvania man arrested in turks and caicos after ammunition was found in his luggage. he's back home with family, his sentence suspended instead of what could have been 12 years behind bars. >>> a deadly russian strike on a shopping center in eastern ukraine, dozens injured. more than 200 people may have been inside when the building was bombed. >>> the release of audio recordings about why a sheriff's deputy shot and killed an airman in his apartment. >>> nicki minaj arrested at the airport in amsterdam. what police are now saying. >>> opening weekend for the tallest waterslide in america, 145 feet high. >>> america strong, speaking from the heart just 45 minutes af

first criminal trial of a former president heads to the jury next week and why special counsel jack smithng bold new action in terms classify documents case. and, reality check. do you all really believe trumps rally in the bronx was about reaching out to black and latino voters? i don't. i am jonathan capehart. this is the saturday show. for decades, democrats have tried and failed to make the court a voting issue for its base. well, maybe this election cycle, they will succeed because this week in washington, we are seeing two very different visions for the american justice system. president biden reached a major milestone in his mission to diversify the federal courts. the consent -- senate confirmed his 200 and 201st judicial nominees adding two more women of color to the bench. biden has already pointed more black and brown judges than any president in history. they think the senate in the statementsend quote, judges matter. these men and women have the power to uphold basic rights or to roll them back. that is why democrats are calling out some urgent and serious ethics concerns on

jack smith can prosecute trump any time come in december, when he's in jail, if he were to go to jailr example, so now that the opponents to president trump and democrats have gotten a conviction that they wanted, this will alleviate, i think, some of the pressure on the supreme court too, you know, turn this quickly, but i think that decision will still come by the end of june. whether we have a trial in that case before november, i think that was probably unlikely in any event, but it is less significant with this conviction now. >> norah: supreme court in june. the sentencing, july 11th. the republican convention july 15th. the democrats convention in august. it will be quite a summer. >> major: oh, by the way, norah, the president's son on trial starting monday. the president's son on trial starting monday, a former president convicted on the thursday before. we are in a brand-new space in america. >> norah: we will be watching. thanks to both of you. we are also hearing reaction tonight from president biden, a statement coming out minutes after the verdict said there is only one

new setback for jack smith documents case against president trump and jack smith's team now accuse themselves, they're accused of mishandling d ocuments. and house republicans move to hold ag merrick garland in contempt for not turning over the audio of special council robert hur's interview with president biden in the c lassified document scandal and the audio proves the president is in cognitive decline. and bidenomics now hitting fast food chains more and more w arning wall street that historic inflation is taking a bite out of them. will your prices rise even more? the president claims he backs israel and senators now say biden convening congress d elaying arms to israel and hamas still holds u.s. hostages. more and more businesses and now judges say no, we're not going to hire or give jobs to anti-semitics to the protesters and backlash growing there and we're going to speak to senator roger marshal about his legislation calling for anti-israel agitators to the f aa. all this coming up on "the evening edit". ♪ you're probably not easily persuaded to switch mobile providers for your busin

why is this so important for jack smith's case if this case oversees the light of day? >> this is obstruction. and they actually had the temerity today to claim at least wallet nauta did that is elective prosecution. why is he the only one who moved oxus was being prosecuted for exit there, you see why. he is the one on tape. people lie, but video does not. he also lied under oath. this is all really important, and goes to why it is ridiculous to even have these hearings in front of judge cannon. let's move forward with this case. as ankush says , this is the best case they have against donald trump. >> new topic. let's talk about the new york case. judge merchan told lawyers he will get them a final version of jury instructions tomorrow. how crucial are these instructions of the outcome of the case, and can any of the lawyers object? >> well, the time for objecting to the instructions, that happen. they had a charge conference earlier this week. there have been all sorts of behind-the-scenes exchanging of drafts, that normally in federal courts is public. we haven't re

where is jack smith's case now?well, right now it's dead in the water and the question is what the supreme court will do on the immunity question. if the court sends that back and says, you know, we think there is a more nuanced approach here. we don't like the extreme interpretations by either the trump team or lower court, that will require findings of fact. that will require time, and i can't imagine how they could possibly get the trial before the election. but it's really amazing to see the loaded questions from some of the -- for the attorney general what does it say about the justice system suggesting it is going too slowly. jack smith is the one who has been saying that trump should not be entitled to what most defendants are entitled to, things like in bank reviews and cutting short the appellate process and speeding through these cases. it is really jack smith that is asking for exceptions to the standard procedures and scheduling of cases. >> dana: the press did not ask about the hunter biden trial that's

jack smith, special counsel authority did not exist. by what authority does he become god? i could charge anybody with any crime i've decided i want to skew them for and bring criminal charges. guest: we seen this in cases with president biden with the documents case and also with trump in various situations. pretty sure he has the authority to do what he is doing by the attorney general. host: we mentioned that the house and senate don't come in officially until tomorrow, but key congressional hearings that you will be watching for are back in town on tuesday, wednesday or thursday this week. guest: key congressional hearings. that's a good question. the judiciary, i'm not aware of a hearing is going on this week but i'm pretty sure the judiciary has something coming but is escaping me right now. host: there is a question whether presence of universities are going to be back on capitol hill anytime soon. guest: not that i know of, unless the schedule has changed recently. i'm very curious now that school is over or ending how that turns out. there's going to be a clear dis

or it could be unlawful appointment of jack smith, larry, he was never senate approved which the special counsel sa sa soot well -- statute requires. larry: the judge is very interested in. and last one, the great saga of fani willis, in hotlanta, turns out appeals court thinks she may not be qualified to oversee this case, i think she has an election. but, what do you make of that story. looking like that will be off into the future. >> well, she is not qualified to oversee you know a hot dog stand. she campaigned to promise to nail trump, which is deeply unethical for a prosecutor, then she compounded or behavior by having an affair with -- said the other day cheating on your wife having an affair in workplace is american as apple pie that under scores this twisted mentality of these arrogant people and she is in trouble now. you know the fact that appellate court took the case suggests they think that the motion by the defendant on dismiss the case or remove her has merit, it does. larry: wow. all right they may be 0 for 4, lawfare does not work. gregg jarrett terrific stuff, talk soo

jack smith has two options. if the judge sits on this, he could seek a writ of mandate and go over her head and have the 11th circuit interbeing because this is the condition of release. but if ishe does deny it, he c immediately appeal under the federal statute to the 11th circuit. i don't expect judge cannon to sit around on this. i think she will move in terms of a time frame. the question is how long does she take to rule on it and how long can jack smith wait. this is one of the rare opportunities he has had to go over her head. the last time was jury's instructions and she backed off. will she do something here that gives them an opportunity to have her removed. >> there is this game of chicken that is going on between the government and judge cannon. even if she ends up denying it, it's not the first time that the 11th circuit has slapped her for making errors. is therer a time in which it does become a point where smith has to secret crucial has to seek recusal? >> i don't think he has to seek recusal. w

i mean, what is jack smith, if anything, saying about this? he has been pretty pointed about some of the decisions that judge has made in filing things before, right right. >> i think you might expect that the tensions that have been already long simmering in this case are going to just going to be exacerbated by this. there's a lot of frustration on the part of the justice department that this case should not be moving along. so plotting li slow. every time we go to a court hearing down down four peers, sara, we wonder whether this is the day we're going to hear the judge said a new trial date, and then she doesn't do it. and one of the reasons why there's so much frustration is a lot of speculation has been that the government could ask for her to be removed, but the problem is, she doesn't have a lot of record for them to use against her. she doesn't make any rulings. she just kinda kicks the can down the road and that's again what donald trump wants out of this case. >> all right. and it has to be said that she was appointed by donald trum

judge cannon is showing that there is a very limited amount of patience that she has for jack smith atpoint. this is another setback for what is intended to be an election interference effort that as long as this trial is going on. if the gag order was in place president trump would be unable to defend himself. but fortunately in the middle of the presidential campaign now that we see what judge cannon just put out president trump can continue to defend himself against this terrible case by jack smith. >> harris: one more on this leo with you. the criticism of this particular judge has been this was a trump-appointed judge all along. and i'm wondering well, the one that you have right now has given money to democrats and we know about the storied history of his daughter who also is steeped in democratic politics. so all of that aside, why can't judges just adjudicate the case? do you buy any of this against judge cannon? >> do i buy it? let me think about it? no. you have a federal judge who has basically ruled in favor of the first amendment, freedom of speech, and the right of a defe

president trump does and then jack smith mishandled the very documents.e this stuff up. >> sean: you really can't. let me get erection on what's going on in the court. you have the judge putting -- threatening to put president crump in jail. you have clearly a judge in this case according to my reading of the law that should have recused himself. you have allegations, serious ones, of the family being involved and compromised and possibly benefiting from the outcome of this trial. then you have the third highest ranking official at the department of justice, this is merrick garland department of justice, number 3a guy that we now know was raising money political donations with the dnc. and this guy is now leaving that big important job to go work and run this case for alvin bragg in new york city? tell me how that's not a conflict of interest. >> it definitely is. you got a part democrat prosecuting the case, you got a question judge overseeing the case counterparts and judge daughter worked for adams for -- and, of course, you got a gag order on the form

jack smith will have two options. one, if judge cannon sits on this he could go over her head and have the 11th circuit interbeing because this is a condition of release even if she does roll and denies it, again, he can immediately appeal that under the federal statute to the 11th circuit. i do not expect to sit around on this one. i think she will move decently in terms of a timeframe for the question, how long does she take to actually rule on it and how long can jack smith wait? this is one of those rare opportunities in the case to potentially dangle going over her head. the last time with the jury instructions and she backed offered will she do something here to give them an opportunity to take her down and have a removed? i don't know. >> to bradley's point, there is this game of chicken. i say game loosely. there is this chicken that is going on between the government and dutch cat in. -- judge cannon. this is not the first time they have slapped judge cannon for making errors in the law. is there a time in wh

and jack smith admitted things were not as they should be with the boxes. it raises serious questions. these cases are coordinated political attack, plain and kimple. er that clear attempt to keep donald trump in the courtroom and off the campaign trail. that's what this is. it's an election interference. it's borderline criminal conspiracy. and the american people see right through it. president trump has done nothing wrong here and he continues to be the target of endless lawfare. it has to stop. you're going to see the united states congress address this in every possible way we can. we need accountability, at the end of the day it's bigger than president trump. it's about the people's faith in our system of justice. and we're going to get to the bottom of it. all these cases immediate to be dropped because they're a threat to our entire system. on these other issue, while these sham trials go on up and down the east coast, across america, got college students wondering whether their careers, or about graduation and after graduation, are going to be even

why did jack smith not seek to change the jurisdiction immediately? >> oh, my god.t i don't know that. all i know, this -- for donald trump, he's had a lot of like crazy luck in his life but, man, this issic loo the equivalent of me getting a scratch ticket and hitting the jackpot because it's a random assignment. trump, the luckiest thing that's ever happened in this legal realm. pure luck, right? i don't know what jack -- look, if jack smith had the capacity to get this venue changed, i defer to andrew would knows way more about what's possible there, and what might have been going on in jack smith's head, if he had a possibility of doing that it was pretty obvious in the beginning to most of us this was not going to end well, and one of the things that's clear as we sit here today, i had no doubt we wouldn't get to that before election day but even if you're delusional you can't see a way where that will happen. this is the most open and shut of the cases. there's just no world in which trump has any defense because of the laws and obviously in some ways doesn't

green for prep federal prosecutor andrew to guess is good have you want this on to special counsel jack smith classified documents case against trump and so many court late on friday evening, special counsel smith admitted to misleading the court that the evidence classified documents seized from mayor a lot of no longer there original and tax form when they told the date yes they were but now they been jumbled and what we supposed to believe here. andrew: i think the classified document case falling part of moses quickly as this new york criminal case is falling apart and there's an array of various failures and fumbles jack smith has recently had to include falsely asserting that certain discovery had been provided in a certain order we are also sing a lot more information the communications that existed back in the day prior to the one the shows jack smith he sees me the government to include the national archives essentially engaged in this negotiation president trump similar to other presidents in the past but the elevated escalated into a criminal referral, much quicker and unnecessaril

frankly the immunity issue for the case in d.c., jack smith case in d.c.e have the supreme court handling that. so i think again the country is clearly seeing that these cases are baloney. this is lawfare as you said. it is wrong and the country understands that. larry: yeah, you know, the worst part is, it besmirches our justice system. this is the greatest country in the world. that infuriates me too and i'm sure it does you. let me ask you, branch out a little bit, jim jordan, with respect to all these campus riots and antisemitism and hate crimes therein, is your committee, can your committee look into a civil rights discrimination case, title vi which was reinforced by an executive order by president trump couple years back when he was president? >> yeah. larry: how about defunding these colleges. they seem to be in violation of civil rights discrimination. is there a case there, jim jordan? >> we should do all of the above. we passed legislation goes to title vi, of civil rights case, take the definition president trump had when you served in his adm

this is one year after the insurrection, long before jack smith was active.ow these aids and even lawyers seems to become directly involved in not only making arguments or defending things, which they are allowed to do, but in advancing active work that appeared to break the law, which could be indictable. right now. i will air that exchange and epshteyn ultimately admitting his role. saying he did it with and that involved, let's recall, trying to deceive the government with fraud electors in states that trump had lost, where the loss had been certified. we are airing this in its full context, about 90 seconds, from that original interview and you will hear epshteyn admit the very elector plan he is now indicted for this week in arizona. >> there has also been reporting about the attempt to seat fraudulent electors. is that something you ever worked on or for example would support, in michigan? >> that's so funny. it's not fraudulent electors. >> the trump campaign asked us to do that. did you ever make calls like that regarding what you're calling these alt