jack thorne, let me they bring you in. why do you think this is a bad idea?to me that their salaries are a bit high at chnnel 4 and i don't think that is necessarily true and i don't really understand what it focuses not on what channel 4 has done historically which is made really good television. with a television that people want to watch. and we live in the age of if you can't attract international finance you are in trouble. it is very difficult to make shows. and that means that the local is being lost and we are constantly looking for global ideas and that means that shows that talk about our country, that talk about what makes our country interesting, that are focused on looking at the problems looking for global ideas and that means that shows that talk about our country, that talk about what makes our country interesting, that are focused on looking at the problems within our country, social realism, otherwise are lost. and it would be a tragedy. david disagrees with that and we will have to return to the subject for the moment. very much indeed. the

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first, though, let's talk to jack thorne who is an acclaimed screenwriter who's worked on his dark materialsure, which is one of the most high—profile moments for the tv industry, and in that, jack thorne was blunt, telling the audience tv has failed disabled people utterly and totally. jack, welcome to the media show. i wonder if you could explain to us in more detail why you came to that stark conclusion about the state of the tv industry? primarily because it's true. and i think that the argument must be broken down into three parts. one is that if you look at figures for representation, disabled people are chronically underrepresented. you know, 20% of our population are disabled and yet only 8.2% of on—screen talent are disabled. 5.4% of people working behind the screens, and if you look at the executive level, it goes right down to 3.6%, so there is a real problem in terms of disabled people

mctaggart lecture, which is one of the most high—profile moments for the tv industry, and in that, jack thorneas blunt, telling the audience tv has failed disabled people utterly and totally. jack, welcome to the media show. i wonder if you could explain to us in more detail why you came to that stark conclusion about the state of the tv industry? primarily because it's true. and i think that the argument must be broken down into three parts. one is that if you look at figures for representation, disabled people are chronically underrepresented. you know, 20% of our population are disabled and yet only 8.2% of on—screen talent are disabled. 5.4% of people working behind the screens, and if you look at the executive level, it goes right down to 3.6%, so there is a real problem in terms of disabled people being employed within the industry. the second thing, and related to that is the stories that are told about disability are few and far between. that i can only think of a handful of shows in my lifetime and it is very hard to get those disabled stories told. i've been trying for years to tell