opinion of someone who's not political at all, i think, someone who is an expert in this field, jack vogel from van guard, who uses the number 30% in unnecessary fees that have gone up here. so i think the proof is ample, that many americans have rather poultry retirement accounts because of very high fees that they're paying. second, mr. speaker, the chairman talked about the suitability standard under the securities law. well, that's kind of the point. the suitability standard is not a fiduciary standard. the suitability standard assumes an arms-length transaction between people of equal or similar competence, where it's every man or woman, indiana vester for him or herself. the pension situation is very different. this is a situation where someone is driving a bus or building houses or teaching school or working in a software company and that's what they do, they don't do investment all the time. so when they turn to someone for advice, they're assuming that that someone is on their side. that the advice that someone has given them is in their best interest, that's the very nature of a