do you think that jack welch is right?first of all, let me say that he has a record of increasing jobs in massachusetts when he was governor and he has a record of knowing the private sector. he has a record of running the olympics and getting it out of the ditch and making it a great olympics in utah. he has a record of performance. what people are going to be voting on when they go into that booth is the obama record. and it is abysmal. the obama record is nothing but more debt, more regulations, more taxes and now a health care bill that is going to transform for the worse the greatest health care system in the world. we're going to be taking away the doctor/patient relationship. eventually we're going to have a government system. and we're going to be like canada and great britain. those are wonderful countries, but the one thing that people don't like about the way those countries run is their health care because there's no capability to get the extraordinary care that we have in this country. and that is why obamacar

i think some of this is a response to the rupert murdoch tweet, jack welch treat, "wall street journal" op-ed, bill kristol comments, basically questioning whether the staff is up to it. now, adding staff is different than subtracting staff. no one in mitt romney's senior staff orbit is being fired or demoted. i talked to lots of people in that world yesterday and they made that very clear. i think what they are trying to do is recognizing that what you don't want to do is have this story line, this staff shakeup story line run endlessly. add a few senior people and hope that it quells it. i would say the best thing to quell it is today's jobs report. >> chris cillizza, talk to you later. thank you very much for starting us off. >>> the president called it a step in the right direction. mitt romney called it a kick in the gut. for the american people, it's just another dismal jobs report. capping the weakest economic quarter in two years. hilda solis is u.s. labor secretary and joins me now. great to see you. thank you very much. thanks for taking this on. this is not great news. tell

the former ge ceo jack welch agrees with rupert murdoch, telling romney, get pros on your team.h, a tweeting machine if you haven't noticed by now. met romney last week, tough o chicago pros will be hard to beat unless he drops all friends from team and hires some real pros. doubtful. welch followed up tweeting, hope mitt romney is listening to murdoch advice, advice on the campaign stuff, playing in league with chicago polls. no room for amateurs. >> i would imagine if i wore mitt romney and mitt romney has run lots of businesses and run two presidential campaigns, i would say let jack welch and ruper murdoch run their businesses and i'll run my campaign. >> they play a large role. it's about the money. how the media portrays your campaign. they are a big part of that. >> they are not writing checks to mitt romney. i worked on two presidential campaigns and i will say my experience at least looking at mitt romney's team, hae has a good team political campaign operatives and seems to balance it well. >> would you read other tweets thinking, rupert murdoch tweeted this, i better

>> it doesn't matter. >> it does not matter. >> jack welch as he defines this, it was an interesting you don't have a great future here and make a shift. i mean that's a responsibility to tell them why and what's happened rather than saying to the other guys you know -- >> then you get the probabilities. what's the -- sure there may be 10% throughout the whole company. what's the probability that 10% breaks up evenly unit to unit to unt. if you have a 10 person unit what's the probability it will break up? >> in erica's introduction she used the word scathing. did you mean for it to be scathing and did you have a hard time getting people to talk to you? >> it's very funny because i don't start off like that. >> scathing. >> i read online somebody said scathing article i thought, really? yeah it is a little rough. >> steve is not going to be inviting you to lunch any time. >> she means steve palmer the new ceo who follows bill gates. >> right. i didn't have a lot of trouble getting people to talk to me because it was interesting, the main issue was getting somebody to return your phon

get a jack welch in there? what are we paying him 400 for? biden is getting 230? >> bill: that's a private market thing you are doing here. they don't do that at the government. when the federal government controls the economy there is no incentives. >> god forbid we try something new because these are the glory days right here, right? everything is going swimmingly. i saw as i read down that list, billy that can a leggographers are making 8 a, $90,000. they got three calligraphers on stack. >> when clinton was in there it was a calligoligist. they would arrange some of the activities around the place. >> bill: wait, i have to stop you. you are outrunning your coverage here. calligraphers for whose who don't know are people who have fancy, beautiful hand writing that is used in invitations. calligolist work for the old roman emperor procuring him who knows what? >> calligist would procure calligraphers for calliglia. >> bill: he hired 14 more people? >> i know every niche group in the world now has a press rep in the white house. i love it when groups want to go m

differing are versions are causing consternation among romney supporters, including rupert murdoch and jack welch. they're calling for a romney campaign shake up. murdoch tweeting mitt romney last week, tough o chicago pros will be hard to beat unless he drops old friends from team and hires some real pros. doubtful. the following lead, if mitt romney loses his run for the white house, a turning point will have been his decision monday to absolve president obama of raising taxes on the middle class. let's talk about it now with red state.com's eric erickson. he's with us so is rick santorum and alice stewart. also senior political analyst ron brownstein. so, eric, where does this clarification get romney exactly? it certainly doesn't help him with the folks who are worried he's a flip-flopper, does it? >> no, that's the problem. i think the romney campaign doesn't want to be seen as a flip-flopper, but sometimes you can be so careful you trip over your feet. that's what's happening here. he just needs to go on and say it's a tax. it didn't work well for him in the primary campaign to say, well, i

bill crystal was sort of making same port, jack welch. asking you as a conservative, is this widespread that their campaign is sort of incompetent at this point? sniet was the question. i was thinking if i had a chance to sis down with mitt romney, i would ask him that. from the outside it looks like there have been some missteps but from all accounts they've heard internally, they're very policed with how everything has gone. >> to governor rendell's point it's dead sneechb we're going to turn to foreign policy for the second half of the segment. iran, amid signs that international sanctions may actually be working. they broadcast this video earlier of ballistic missile tests and it warns it could take out u.s. military bases in the middle east and they went so far as to make mock-ups of foreign bases for its war games. you know, guys, i thurng this s this is an underappreciated story. i think it clears at this point the strategy has been to make rhetorical concessions to the hawks in the country, to keep them at bay as much as possible

jack welch chimes in. is listening to murdoch advice, playing in league with chicago polls, no room for amateurs. ouch. but the thing that the table really wants to talk about is white people. i wonder why. >> what's up with white people? >> what is up with white people? and i have three white people here to explain that. >> well, i want to white people, i want to talk about latino -- i want to talk about interesting demographic trends and an interesting story i read over the weekend from ron brownstein who writes for the "national journal." >> he's white. >> and he is a white guy, so he can write with authority on white guys. and he's basically looking at -- i think it's an interesting phenomenon here. if you boil it down, romney's strategy for this -- for winning in november depends basically on white people and white people alone. he, you know, you consider his reaction to immigration, has he made any bold gestures to try to win over latino voters? no, he's very concerned about sort of conservative, blu

jack welch ran ge up until the stock market fell apart and is that jeff immult's fault? no. state of the market. it doesn't matter who's ceo. the market will continue to decline. that's an important thing of investors to pay attention to. when's the state of that business? is it salvageable no matter who the ceo is? >> there are, again, companies where you see just the opposite. i look at a hershey. walmart. people forget about walmart. mastercard. new guys coming in and the company doing extraordinarily well. >> walmart does have -- >> they have issues but if you look at the numbers -- >> they have issues. take a look at the numbers. since the management change occurred. that's what i'm looking at is numbers. not the hype. not anything else. >> fair enough. herb and peter. thank you very much, gentlemen. >> thank you. >>> coming up, larry kudlow just wrapping up an exclusive interview with mitt romney. larry will join us after the break with what romney talked about. i have a feeling the issue of taxes may come up. i'm just guessing on that one, folks. plus should investors

"the wall street journal," jack welch, rupert murdoch have criticized the staffing. is that the answer to the campaign? how much? >> campaigns get a lot of people saying good things about us, saying we're doing a great job and other folks saying we need to do a better job. i think the most important thing for every campaign is to put it in perspective, take all that information in, process it, and make sure that what you're doing every single day is living up to the expectations, high expectations, that people have for your campaign. and that comes from people that are observing as reporters, and pundits, and that comes from people observing as supporters, people that want to see governor romney win. i think as a campaign, we're very focused on living up to the high expectations, and we listen to that advice, whether it's constructive criticism or whether it's praise and we do our best. the most important thing we can do is go out there and articulate governor romney's message for what he wants to do for the country. >> thanks very much to kevin madden. we appreciate

. >> rose: you talked about a ranking system pioneered by jack welch at g.e. what impact does that have? >> it's a disaster. one of the thing us found really interesting... i interviewed dozens of people and every single phone call within or meeting within five minutes the person will bring up stack ranking is a disaster for this company and the way stack ranking works... it might work at g.e., but at microsoft... i'll explain it and explain why it's so problematic. if you have five people in a division, everybody in the unit, everybody in the division is pitted against the other. you have... you can't just do well. you have to do better than the next guy. and if you don't do better, well, that affects your income, that affects bonuses, that affects whether you can't to work at the company. and the way it's set up, five people, one of them is ranked great, one of them is ranked... these are just made up numbers because they change the percentages all the time, one of them is ranked below great, two of them are ranked average and one of them is ranked terrible.

. >> final word -- >> mitt romney should ignore people like jack welch and rupert murdoch.ther one have ever run for political office, they have never won. so the way you operate in business is different when it comes to politics. if you shake your team up, that's going to lead to another host of stories about saying you never trusted it. then it becomes this whole thing where it just eats yourself up. stick to your game plan. you move forward, anything happens, you get to september, october, that's a different ball game. >> hey, roland -- >> you don't thing anything now -- >> you're not a consultant for the romney campaign tonight. i'm just checking. >> no. >> i'm just checking. he might need you. >> i'll take some romney money, though. i don't mind another check. >> buy yourself a jet ski. thanks to all three of you. we appreciate it. nothing wrong with having fun, doing whatever you're going to do. all right. >>> iranian nationals are accused of hiding 30 pounds of explosives, potentialing targeting americans, enough to employee blow up a major hotel. we're live to that

when he says "corporations are people" that might impress jack welch but it won't impress the voter in dayton, ohio. so it's all of a piece and he's got to realize that and get that act together, if you will, because there's less than four months left. >> rose: why couldn't tse plipl go to the country and say "this is really about you and what the country should offer you and haven't and i'm here to try to fix that. and by the way america has been good to me and i want america to be good to you"? >> i think they've tried to do it. they haven't done it successfully. he has to tell them a bit more about himself. right now they are letting the obama people define mitt romney more than mitt romney is defying mitt romney. this is really... it is deja vu all over again in yogi's terms. it's john kerry in 2004. the other side is defining a candidate. >> rose: it seems to me that it's axiomatic, you can't let the other person define you. >> you knew that, everybody knew that, i also knew and everyone else knew that there would be an attack on bain. what gingrich and others tried earlier in the