former ceo of ge, jack welsh. joins me from las vegas. , if he asks, will you serve as treasury secretary? >> no. >> why not? >> michael, i have got a wonderful life. i'm doing my thing. i'm out in vegas talking to groups. i've got my school. i've got a lot of things on my plate. and i don't want a full-time job. >> does the ceo skill set transfer, do you think, to the white house? >> well, parts of it do, clearly. i meaner there's no clear that leadership, making decisions, setting priorities, differentiating between priorities. absolutely would it translate. now, some of the give and take. some of the negotiating skills, that would depend on the person. >> your tenure at ge was legendary. a 1981 to 2001 reign. the stock value increased e4000 if i'm not mistaken. do you think that jack welch could have gone from ge, from 30 rock to pennsylvania avenue? >> i probably wouldn't have made it. >> that's trump's curse, right? >> could i have done the job? absolutely. would i have the skills? absolutely. could i be elegislated, would i want to r

charlie: jack welsh had said, and i found some resonance in andif you surprise someone they are not surpriseen you have failed. manager,gain, as a that is a really uncomfortable conversation. telling somebody that they need to get better and coaching them, that you have an obligation to do it and it is a fair and just thing. charlie: you want to take power away from the manager? laszlo: as much as we can. charlie: and give it to the employees? laszlo: yes. charlie: that is a crucial ingredient of what you argue. laszlo: it is. charlie: it is about direction and the rest. laszlo: at google, we take away the power of manager about who you get to hire, you don't get to make that decision, you don't get to decide who to promote, you don't get to decide what to award somebody. manager should make people better and more effective. but people want to advance and they want these resort -- these rewards of the you are going to hand out, so you are not going to see their best work. away is alling that that is left is to have the manager to try and help. if you go back to the fundamentalism about how y

jack welsh was on with neil cavuto earlier today on your world.e a listen of what he had to say about this. >> the next person comes in has to go around handshaking every office, listening, make people feel like you're listening, if you have to give voice to any organization, you're going to get a lot of trouble. charles: vince, i'll start with you. who do you think gets the job and how long does this search linger? >> i don't -- i imagine the search can't continue on too much longer. this is not good for the party. and, by the way, the conservative members of the house don't want to see boehner finish out the rest of, you know, president obama's presidency being the speaker of the house. so at this point my guess is that paul ryan will be convinced to do this. that's my guess. charles: everyone saying paul ryan, though, guys, ryan says i've got a couple -- i've got young kids, i don't want to do it. what's plan b? plan a, plan b, plan x, in case of emergencies, break left. >> we've broke through several emergencies already, let's get a new one. w

i've all these known his partners, ge especially, jack welsh was on a competitor station this past weekendpoke very highly of trump and his business that he gets things done. and, you know, if you look at trump, he's a very serious candidate and i think all these people are trying to trivialize him are making a huge mistake, they're really under estimating him. stuart: how about the tax plan? that stood out to me, we're a financial program, we deal with the economy and markets and money. he had a tax plan that sound to me reaganesque. how did it sound to you? >> it sounded great to me. 25% maximum tax on income, 15% on corporate taxes. you know, you have a -- you have all sorts of wonderful things in his proposal. i would tweak it this, that, or the other, but bottom line it's as good as any proposal out there today and all the republicans, by the way, are reading from the same, which i'm very grateful for. they're all for lower tax rates, broadening the tax base. when you look at someone like trump who has been paying taxes all of his life and tries to minimize the tax bill and knows all

jack kerouac and there is a conjunction of people from new york. kerouac and ginsburg and the similar kind of people from the pacific northwest lou welsh and gary snyder and phillip wayland. allen ginsburg people have pointed out he was like a machinist in terms of poetry. he remade american poetry but he was also a genius in terms of publicity at pr. he had worked in marketing and advertising. he knew what it took to spread the word. he was fearless in terms of promotion. kerouac and snyder were writing that there wasn't really -- it wasn't something that was called the beat generation until allen ginsburg came along and gave it that tagline and he review their books. he went to "the new york times" and "the new yorker" and he got them to review their books and he also organized leading. they were more like public performances the word of the beats. they organized a poetry evening in san francisco and not sober of 1965. it was an art gallery and they sent out postcards and kerouac went out and bought wine, red wine in the past wine around and "the new york times" heard about this and they send out a reporter to write about the poetry in san francisco