was murdered in kushendall actually by the same the same man was involved the jackel the jackel robin jack jackson um who was killer for hire and he's working working both with the special branch and with uh mi5 um we got together there was an event in in the uk was run by michael oher. whose little sister mello here was murdered uh in in 76 and i think it was august 76 and it it was bring people together from both communities who had been had been impacted by the troubles - one of the other speakers on that particular event his his his wife had been killed in the shankel road bombing and there was there was four of us talking about our experience. because it's important to to talk about these things so that people understand the futility and the failure of violence and we decided that the event that was al mcbr was the man's name whose wife sharen was was murdered in onkel road bombing but when when we began to realize you know there's more it's more about other people as well as me you know it's it's so been focusing for all of these years on myself and my own story and then i started to hear ot