in prime time at the time you have milton berle and jackie gleason starting out, and you have various shows. daytime, not so much. so these hearings are being watched and cities around the country. interestingly enough, not in las vegas because las vegas does not get a tv station until 1953. seeing these people on tv, these mobsters, gangsters, accused killers, reduced a lot of the perception of them as robin hoods, people who robbed from the rich and gave to the poor, they were not such bad people. and hollywood had created an image, if you will, of mobsters that maybe they were not so bad or some of them who were really bad, at least they got put away, you did not deal with them. this changes perceptions of organized crime in america. and so, it is a popular show. it is a riveting show. and it is also a transformative show. the hearings were a success and a failure. they were a failure in the sense that organized crime survives and illegal activities go on in the cities and areas where they are being driven out. where it does serve the intended purpose, kefauver is a moral reformer.