what's interesting about the microsoft example that jackie alluded to here, if you think about how these respective companies have just shot up and growng reason why. significant for apple, significant for microsoft, significant, you know, all the more so for microsoft long after bill gates stepped down. all the more so now that jeff bezos is taking himself out of day-to-day operations. so the dn answerer, the plant is there -- dna, the plant is there. i'm just wondering where it goes from here. would you still recommend amazon at even these lofty levels? >> i would, and we hold it currently, neil, and we're probably going to buy some more if it does continue to pull back here. andy jassy is the head of amazon's cloud division, so that clearly shows you where this company wants to go going forward. not to say we're going to forget about amazon retail in the future, but cloud and health care are two areas where i think amazon is really going to start to take over in the next 5-10 years. neil: when you say in the next 5-10 years, you've seen these analyst statements, scott, talking about we see this stock going to $5,000, we see a host o