. >> reporter: psycho therapist jackie jacobsen is a counselor who sees these personality types again and again, including the stress junky who may use food for comfort. the multi-tasker who eats on the run. and the giver. >> a lot of us like to give but we give and give and give and then get depleted and we don't develop the skills to give to ourselves or to stop and take care of ourselves. and that's where food comes in. >> reporter: as for gayle, learning to look inside has helped her better control how she looks outside. she's already lost 25 pounds. >> i've learned to slow down on my eating. now i'm learning to say, no, i don't want to do that. >> reporter: and standing up for herself has been a big part of gayle's weight loss. she feels more confident to ask for foods to be fixed a certain way. >> i, too, am a perfectionist. i'm always looking for a perfect gummy bear. doesn't exercise help. >> you have to watch what you eat and exercise. in her case she's exercising more, she's losing weight, she feels more confident and it keeps going. and you see the thing on her arm, that's