we have bobby franklin and jackie kelly.obby, what do you make of the fact that uber and lift are going out at the same time and a particularly volatile time? is it a good idea? it's ai don't know if good idea, but i think it is about time for uber. it is important that we have some successful ipos. venture backed companies need that help the ipo market. when you to find success when companies go there and these are clearly be companies. i would like to see changes in the ipo market so it welcoming to all entrepreneurs and to the 8000 companies that venture capitalists invested in last year. emily: what is the choreography going to be for these two companies, filing in the same week? are they going public on the same day? how does this work? jackie: it's a good question, and we are excited that a lot of the unicorns we've been waiting massivelyll be choreograph. the most important thing is that the companies perform well to do want to see some of these hot companies have a great debut. emily: do you think they will perform w

. >> jackie kasinich, thank you for being here. john kelly telling the times no wall. the president often says wall or barrier or fencing and now steel slats but we left a solid concrete wall early on in the administration. that's what john kelly, outgoing chief of staff, has just told the l.a. times. it is not a wall. it has this ever-changing definition. it's certainly not a concrete wa wall. and then you heard, alice, the president just say he has never abandoned a wall. just for fun, can i just play the president in his own words trying to describe what the wall concept is? because he, too, has had -- seemed to have a hard time really settling in on what material and how high and how long this will be. listen to this. >> we actually need 1,000 because we have natural barriers. it's going to be so big. it's going to be so powerful. it's going to be as beautiful as a wall can be. the wall also called so that i give them a little bit of an out, steel slats. we don't use the word wall necessarily. it's not going to be open until we have a wall, a fence, whatever they w

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kelly is poised to resign in the coming days. joining me now, we have democratic congresswoman jackie spear of california, a member of the house intelligenceng with us. give us your reaction to the mueller team questioning the white house chief of staff. >> special counsel mueller has been very systematic in building blocks that sit on top of each other to make a very strong foundation for whatever case he is trying to make. it doesn't surprise me that he talked to general kelly. it doesn't surprise me that the president wanted to fire mueller. he does not believe in following the law. he never has. as we start to unwind his commercial dealings, his business dealings before he was president, he violated one law after the other. >> sources say that the questions kelly focused on for kelly really had to do with potential obstruction of justice. where else do you think the mueller investigation is going here? >> i think it's very clear that he is going to try and establish the link between the trump campaign and the russians through wikileaks in terms of trying to undermine the election. i think that's one component. i think obstruction of ju

kelly, vice president mike pence's chief of staff, nick ayers, he turned it down as well. joining me to discuss, cnn political analyst and washington bureau chief for the daily dest, jackie kucinich avlon. so, john and jackie, i'll get your thoughts on this, too. doesn't seem like anybody wants this job. >> i know. you're getting that impression, huh? normally, this is the reputation maker. getting chief of staff. this seems to be seen as a reputation breaker. people are worried they're going to come out of this diminished, their reputation destroyed, and you keep seeing signs of this. it's stunning that he seems to have a hard time filling a job that normally people are breaking down the doors to get. it's a sign of the staid of trumplandia. >> it seems to be it's a difficult job because the president runs, as ryan costello said to me, a unique white house, but how much are legal concerns part of this as well? because you would have to be aware you would be stepping into a job, an administration that is facing investigations. and bringing some of the president's aides into the spotlight in those investigations as well. >> right. it's not just the job. which make no mistake, is c

jackie linerick and garrett tenney standing by. let's go to alp son barber at the -- allison barber at the white house. does the president have a replacement for john kellyerent things to weigh here at the white house. the president is not publicly saying who he is considering to rechiereplace chief of staff jon kelly. they say the top contender is nick ayers. a source tells me that ayers and the president have been in discussions for months about him replacing john kelly, taking over as white house chief of staff. but the president wants a two-year commitment and so far ayers has not been able to make that sort of commitment. in part, because he has young children at home, three under the age of six and he was actually planning to leave d.c. in december. but this source says the president and mr. ayers are still working on the terms of him taking over. in july, president trump asked his outgoing chief of staff john kelly to stick around until 2020. the president spoke with chris wallace a few weeks ago and would no longer guarantee that. >> look, we get along well. there are certain things i love what he does and there are certain things that i don't li