not always the easiest of relationships, but how did he treat the departing first family and jackie kennedy? >> very well and mrs. kennedy talked about how grateful she was for president johnson. she would have to say president johnson unlike the president's brother, who she called a couple of hours across -- after the assassination -- president johnson -- the very easily to calling him mr. president. but she was very grateful to president johnson, that they were so grateful to her, and they let her stay in the white house until december 6. she was able to stay there with her children until she got the sense of where she was going to go. and in the carnage in dallas, she lost her husband, her home and her job. she had no place to go until the home was open in georgetown. caroline was going to nursery school and kindergarten. she was very grateful to the president for that. >> you have listened to a lot of jacqueline kennedy -- she sounds so in control of herself, 10 days after the assassination and going to the funeral, how do we understand her and her psyche issues. >> you will find someon

>> i have been absolutely fascinated by jackie kennedy. >> i didn't think it was possible to write a biography about her that would be news worthy. because th at the time i tried o do it there was 43 books written on her. i infe interviewed a lot of peoe close to the family and close to mrs. onassis which she was at the time i wrote it. i believe writing an unauthorized biography. unauthorized does not mean untrue. it means you are doing it without the subject's cooperation or approval. would you like to do one with the subject's cooperation? >> no. >> really. >> because you give up editorial control. , if you arso if you are writint jacqueline kennedy onassis, of course i wouldn't be able to talk about the president's womanizing or the things that really affected their marriage. primarily not so much the womanizing, although she go not know about it and she tolerated. >> it was the awful health problems that dogged jfk for so much of his life. i don't think anybody realizes all of the sicknesses and the botched surgeries and the awful diagnosises that he had. and that really was a b

robert, your question. >> my question is jackie kennedy has been mentioned a few times tonight and i'menhowers viewed the kennedys and how mamie viewed jackie and the differences between them. >> i would say that jackie and mamie got off to a very rocky start and that was never righted. part of it is the difference in age, but beginning with a misunderstanding and it was just very rocky when mamie took jackie through the white house on her tour before the inauguration and mrs. kennedy was telling mamie already the plan she had for renovations and that didn't really set very well with mamie. and it went on from there. >> but i have to say that later when they were trying to raise funds for what's now the kennedy center, the eisenhower administration had already been planning for a cultural center in washington, d.c., and when the kennedys were continuing the plan for that, ike and mamie as retired first couple did a lot of public speaking and appearances on television to promote the cultural center. >> our guests talked about the fact that the eisenhowers were smokers and in 1965, presi

jackie kennedy is what, 33? 34. we don't have a plan when he died and thank goodness we are not talking about an assassination. everything was choreographed to and the guests were a list. she had to make it up and model what abraham lincoln. >> certainly the kennedy assassination was i think the worst thing in american life since the murder of abraham lincoln years earlier. and jackie wanted to be made. she wanted the president to fly in his casket in revco's in the white house, close coffin and lincoln was open to the the million people saw his body. 100 fils and children but jackie decided that it didn't look like him anymore. you couldn't tell what had happened to him. his face was cricket after the assassination and damaged, but she was appalled and she said no just keep it closed. the marines were called in the middle of the night and they marched on to the white house ground. he was taken in the procession to the capitol in the artillery taken across to pennsylvania avenue. one interesting thing that jackie di

of researchers who have gone before me and said well it was the cia it was the mob it was as jackie kennedy believed texas oil they're all correct but what do all those entities have in common lyndon baines johnson i don't think l.b.j. did it i know you did it's all ahead on larry king now. welcome to a special edition of larry king now fifty years ago the course of american history was altered forever when president john f. kennedy was assassinated in dallas texas today jay of kay's iconic legacy still lives on across the globe here to discuss why that legacy is particularly important for younger americans is scott de rice author of the new book titled the power of citizenship why you john f. kennedy matters to a new generation i met by the way at a personal moment john kennedy won. i was twenty four years old driving in a car with three friends in palm beach looking at the sights has a scar from behind oh my gosh he was parked he died of a car said how could you hit me on this week and said you want to change license this is no just raise your hands from was the vote for me. and that bega

of researchers who have gone before me and said well it was the cia it was the mob it was as jackie kennedy believed texas oil they're all correct but what do all those entities have in common lyndon baines johnson i don't think l.b.j. did it i know you did it's all ahead on larry king now. welcome to a special edition of larry king now fifty years ago the course of american history was altered forever when president john f. kennedy was assassinated in dallas texas today jay of kay's iconic legacy still lives on across the globe here to discuss why that legacy is particularly important for younger americans is scott de rice author of the new book titled the power of citizenship why the john f. kennedy matters to a new generation i met by the way to personal moron the john kennedy one. i was twenty four years old driving in a car with three friends in palm beach looking at the sites his car from behind oh my gosh he was parked he died of a cause that how could you hit me on this week and said you want to change license this is no just raise your hands from as the vote for me. then we get to

kennedy. pat asked, how would you like to go? jackieaid she would like a private is it very pat nixon and president nixon organized a private visit for the kennedys, which turned out to be a remarkable event for all concerned. both caroline and john junior wrote letters afterwards thanking the nixons. jackie herself wrote a very warm letter. despite whatever anger they might have had or she might have had about the 1960 campaign, she was a human first and realized the importance of letting president kennedy's widow and children come to the white house for the important unveiling. >> we have to get into politics in the life story. during the world war ii does, richard nixon was on active duty with the navy. his first run for congress was 1946. how did he make the foray into politics? >> when he came back, he was still on active duty. he was contacted by someone from california, and they were looking for somebody to run against jerry in the 12 congressional district. talk to pat and they agreed they would -- he would go back out and talk

she filled in for jackie kennedy many times. that's something you have to keep in mind. lots of times mrs. kennedy -- she was pregnant, she lost a baby, she of times, aa lot lot of things she didn't want to filled in soohnson she knew the role well and she washingtonessential political wife. she had been on the scene since 1930's and she really knew it well and she had a cadre of political wives who were and extraordinary women they all gathered around her and made -- that also made that transition somewhat easier. >> we should say at the outset, among those women who gathered around was your own mother. can we talk about the friendship your parents and the johnson? >> my father was first elected congress in 1940. he was 26 and my mother was 24 was before world war ii so the rules were still there of calling. had to go calling and there was, you know, the supreme court on monday, the cabinet on i'm making up the days -- but the senate on wednesday, like that. and there was my mother, this 24-year-old girl except people were older then than they are now so her first day of

lou: jackie kennedy's influence, looking at the two pivotal women in this tale. le as you see it. >> she created the image of john kennedy from the time they got married. she was the stage person and she said she wanted to be the art director of the 20th century, and she did it through him. she helped him with the imagery and the photography the perfect image and she made him a legend in the four days after dallas. her behavior was wonderful and moving and she was in the car and she was inches from his face on his head was blown off. she said oh, no -- he tried to reach for some of his brains in the skull in the back, she wasn't trying to escape. she thought the doctors would need this to fix them later. lou: reaching across the trunk lid to bring the brain matter back. >> yes, and he pushes her back into the car and she says, my god, i have my husbands brains all over me. lou: we are coming up on an amazing anniversary and i can't commend the book you too highly. it is end of days, on sale online at bookstores everywhere, certainly beginning tomorrow. so check it

scott, jackie kennedy onassis or marlon brando.non was his first choice. >> even show, chapman's agenda included a wild scheme to kill scott while the actor was on stage at a broadway show. >> the defendant said he had front row seats, and his plan was to stand up in the middle of the show and fire into the body of george c. scott. it wasn't attic laterally adroit plan because when he went to the gun store to buy bullets to have ammunition for his gun, he was told, you cannot buy bullets for your gun. >> after two weeks in knock, chapman flies back to hawaii. he reveals to his wife he's obsessed with john lennon and plans to kill him. she convinces chapman to make an appointment with a psychologist but didn't keep it. in early december, chapman flies back to new york, stopping over in atlanta to procure 38 high caliber bullets. >> this is someone intent upon committing a murder. >>> on the morning of december 6th, 1980, mark david chapman, the man who would soon kill john lennon arrives in new york city. he goes to the dakota short

jackie kennedy was very cold to have. that was when he first realized that he did not just have a problem with ted kennedy. yet a problem with the entire kennedy problem and there were a big client. >> host: what should readers come away from your book with and what is the legacy? >> guest: essentially i think it is important to realize that a tragedy like the assassination has created more out of the presidency of john f. kennedy then we read in the historical record. that is the power of people in democracy that is one of the altman legacies of his short time in the white house. >> that was book tv signature program in which authors of the latest nonfiction books are interviewed by journalists, public policy makers, legislators, and others familiar with their material. airing every weekend on book tv at 10:00 p.m. on saturday, 12 and 9:00 p.m. on sunday, and 12:00 a.m. on monday. you can also watch online. go to a booktv.org and click on after words in the book tv series and topics list on the upper right side of the pag

a navy vet himself, but the game was canceled initially in the wake of his assassination, but jackie kennedy said please reschedule, because he would have wanted it to be played. it was the first time instant replay was used in america sports, that game, and the became came down the the wire. army was ranked second, they had a chance to go to the national championship. and the final seconds of the game, so it was memorable on several fronts. >> clearly led to one player going, but when their college days are over, what about some of these guys? does football play a role in their future? >> they have a five year military commitment. how, about five years ago, a new rule came into existence where after two years they can go play professional sports. their service is reduced because they are playing professional sports. however, if they don't make the team, they have to go back to military service. but they do have the opportunity if they are good enough. >> next up, i talked with john about what it takes to make change happen, even if it means going to jail. >> this isn't a new channel, this i

. >> what about jackie kennedy's involvement in all of this?e did christmas at the white house right. she is the first one who said, if we're going to have thousands of people over for the holidays, let's have a theme. let's put some thought into it. but the amazing thing is, jacque's personal decorations were kind of haphazard, even a little sloppy, which is kind of a fun thing you wouldn't expect about jacque. >> interesting. >> you've been involved -- >> colleen christian berg. go ahead. >> you've been involved in 2008 and this year the set-up at the white house. what did you make of the difference between the bush administration and obama administration going into decorating? >> well, i was there for the last year of the bush administration. and it was very patriotic. it was a red, white and blue christmas, because it was an election year. so that was a really different way of looking at christmas decorations. and then mrs. obama really loves to decorate with colors that you wouldn't traditionally associate with christmas. like this year we

. >> what about jackie kennedy?>> i was close to jackie kennedy, sitting in the car and let manage i mother and aunt in the house. i was not here. i was waiting to pick them up afterwards. >> that's when she was first lady, is that correct? >> she was first lady. edith is what she wanted us to call her. he was so excited about john kennedy and that presidency. she got to live to see it was, you know, wonderful. >> kerry fuller, we're here on the main level of the house, up one staircase from the entrance. where would you sleep when you were visiting here. >> upstairs. only twice did i stay here for the night. there's a room between her room and the president's. there's two occasions. >> so three of you are left. is there any -- are you active in an edith wilson family at all? i mean is there any -- >> not so much with the family, but certainly with the wilson house and also with the birthplace so i'm involved with both of those, which is wonderful. >> kerry fuller of westchester, new york is here with us. upper nort

like jackie kennedy, told him nothing that was going on and she had to read the newspapers. that was like the general resistance to criticism. >> he and bobby, they were very guarded in many ways. joe, the father, once told him, never put anything on paper and, indeed, joe was the one who counseled them not to reveal jack's health problems, which require substantial. because, joe said, it can't do him any good. or the world to know that he is a sickly or has addison's disease and has this miserable back problem, can't help them in any way at all. so they were guarded and very protective of their image and reputation. joe kennedy as early as 1920s understood that public relations, and he hired pr people to polish his image, and he was very mindful of this and i think jack and bobby were, too. and joe told them, the only one you can really trust is the immediate members of your family. hover close you may be to this aid or that eight or this cabinet member or that cabinet member, bobby is the only one you can really trust. and i think that's the way they operated. >> health pr

tonight, jackie kennedy. international fame and the tragedy of a grieving widow. onall begins at 9:00 eastern c-span. saturday on "washington journal," a look at conservative 2014 priorities and the midterm elections. our guest is philip klein of "the washington examiner." and the book "the american way of poverty -- how the other half still lives." >> if you are a middle or high school student, our video competition wants to know, what is the most important issue congress should address exterior? eight a five to seven minute video, and be sure to include c- span programming. $100,000 in total prizes. the deadline is january 20. get the details online. >> tonight, the year in review continues with a look at the federal budget and the government shutdown. and, a look at the life times of first lady jacqueline kennedy. and >> the beginning of october 2013 was a perfect storm of politics and policy with implementation of many elements of the health care law and the beginning of the new fiscal year. there was a 16 day government shutdown as a result. on the next hour

jackie kennedy, i'm sure there was attention to detail there. >> i love jackie kennedy.e messy. it was even happen hazard in their private family photo, which are presidential historians give us access to. and then she liked to decorate with miniature trees and miniature ornaments. she had the first theme, a nutcracker christmas. >> fantastic. we see these photos, so candid, in the moment, celebrating that day with the kids. betty ford? what can you tell us about her? >> she went for a home spun or home made christmas. she was really trying to be frugal. but it backfired. she actually spent more money than the three previous first ladies before her and the press vilified her. and she only spent $1,600. >> nancy reagan i'm sure brought hollywood glam. >> lots of glam to the white house. she had lots of gold and lots of snowflakes. she had a tradition of celebrity santas. so she actually had mr. t come to the white house for christmas and just this great visual of our first lady with the a team. >> i loved that show. and laura bush. you were on the decorating committee the

jackie and jack. christmas morning with the kennedys. >> it wasn't like -- opulent.rs. you can see we've become more commercial. >> betty ford was crafty. >> she was very frugal. looking for a simple christmas. >> people didn't love that. >> no, she got criticized for the decorations but also for spending. she spent $1,600 and you would have thought she committed the crime of the century. it was too much money. >> boy oh, boy. >> nancy reagan. >> the sky's the limit when hollywood combination to the white house. it was about glitz and glam and she knew how to pose for a photo. she knew the photo opses. >> she had willard scott, larry hagman and mr. t. >> my favorite. mr. t. >> and laura bush, you decorated with her. you had a lot of one-on-one with her. >> i was honored mrs. bush had me as part of the team. i was shocked how hands on she was. shelfed the snow -- she loved the icicles. it was too much, to little and we did it until she got it just right. >> so she was difficult? >> no, she was lovely. >> the gingerbread house is the show stopper. they're one upping th

have video and audio and 'sotographs of jackie kennedy conference that she had but we do not have that. visual and cherry trees. we do not know what those concerts were like in the white house. and archie would play them and he enjoyed going to the musical performances. 30 seconds ofhad helen taft playing the piano, i would certainly listen. the president had a military aid in those days. there is a much more larger panoply of people. archibald willingham butt. are three volumes of his letters. he was a great gossip. he recorded everything that anybody said. some of it may be right, some of it may be wrong but it is a source historians have used her years, the archie butt and taft letters. he died on the titanic. >> a great loss to the tafts. >> it crushed cap. archie had started out pro-tr and had moved over to taft. this emotional dependency. , he he went off to europe did not want to be around with -- when taft and roosevelt had their battle. he made his way back in april 1912. supposedly was correct -- quite heroic on the titanic. making sure woman got into the life boats at the co

compare with a modern first lady, particularly jackie kennedy, in the white house?ringing performers into the white house, this is something that edith roosevelt did. how did she approach introducing americans to culture and supporting the cultural life of the white house? >> she had the musical taste of the pair. theodore roosevelt was not as bad as president grant. he said there were two songs, one is yankee doodle dandy and the other isn't. she worked with the steinway company and brought amazing entertainment to the white house. including pablo casals. she brought the entire philadelphia orchestra at one time. she had tastes that were not quite in line with her husband's family. she loved the corcoran art gallery, theater and art and music. spirituals.o tr brought indian songs. he helped encourage john lomax to discover cowboy songs. they wanted people to understand america had culture. it was not a colonial society anymore. it depended upon european cultures for borrowing artists. they are really important in that sense, too. >> since they had sagamore hill, wh

jackie kennedy. i would like to have congress allow gifts to be given to the white house han that did go through. she was able to accept gifts. she found olneyal antiques. the american institute of arbitration tects felt they were in charge. one point that they were in charge, they said we can't pursue this amendment to change the green room and red room. and she is one the one of the first ladies, the white house is a museum we must horge it. >> we have important points of the coolidge presidency and viet farm subsidies and he signed the revenue act which was lowering uch taxes. .> outlined war >> we mock it but it has a new attraction, because what he said maybe the rule of law, international law, might be a better step. that is interesting. though,otice with these they took capital to get them through. each one of them was hard for calvin and look at his marriage. scandals from the coolidges, he avoided scadgedals or re decorating the white house, he wanted the whol to pass laws. that is what you

kennedy always fascinated me. this summer, the hyannis museum was hosted at the home of jfk and jackie at hyannis port, and bobby kennedy kind of regalis in stories of the present writing those letters while he was in hyannis port, and going back and forth with the president. is that really well known, the back channel, correspondence? i had never heard of it before. >> i hadn't either. >> i was impressed, bobby was really enthralled with the process as a teenager at the time, and the secrecy of it all. so i wondered speed is how wonderful at that age. the letters don't reveal where he is writing most of them and that's what i picked up that letter where he specifically talks -- he specifically rights to khrushchev, i'm here. there are other letters where he writes to khrushchev. it's crazy, they get this warm fuzzy and then in the next letter they say we're going to bury you. but khrushchev thing is amazing to me. for example, in all of those letters, i had to do an enormous editing job on the kennedy khrushchev letters. not just cuban missile crisis but berlin and all the way down the line. many of them are 35 pages l

jackie kennedy said if we're going to have thousands of people over for the holiday, let's put thoughtmple blessings, now we have gather around. we've seen all sorts of things. lots of times they like to commemorate and remember our military and also children at christmas. those are two things that pop up. mrs. obama is big on honoring our service people. >> you made an important point there. everybody assumes this. the fact that they live there. >> yes. >> probably also allows the exercise of celebrating christmas in the first place. if it were just an office building they wouldn't be able to do any of this. that's something that's important to keep in mind. >> i was thinking about the fact if we all, especially with gifts over in the holidays, you take pride and there's an amount of stress that comes with making the house look just right. there's a different level of expectation because of the eyes on it. >> it is executed with military precision. we -- >> it has to be. >> right. just the way it is at your house. >> how many holiday receptions do they throw during a season? dozens? >

the real jackie robinson was very angry, he died angry and he did not trust kennedy.ut me in myt grave telling me things will be ok. i want to know what my son will have, a level laying field. but nelson mandela was not angry. >> he was so awesome in his presence, this was something asut him, that made you feel if you had to be a better person. in his presence, you wanted to be the best that you could be. time i have spent working to bring down apartheid, when i met nelson mandela, the moment after his release, it stunned me. i was at the inauguration in the walking past us was every leader in the world. around for a long time and i thought that usually, i am very excited. but i was stunned over at the inauguration. in honor of flew nelson mandela, like you said, the very people who were responsible for his incarceration and all of that. this is a moment i hold in my hand all the time. tavis: let me close by asking you the same question. whatever you think of nelson mandela, you've made it clear you think he is the greatest figure of the 20th century. but how do we go

kennedy because she had indicated to me on her schedule that she was not going to go to this practice. her schedule set on the very bottom that jackie will not attend. so we anticipated that she would go directly from the hotel to the airport. and however, the president noticed that everybody was clamoring to see mrs. kennedy. so he called advanced age and over and said call clint and tell him to bring mrs. kennedy down right now. so i got a phone call from the presidential suite, telling me that the president and mrs. kennedy down there. trying to explain that that was not on her itinerary. and he said you don't seem to understand. the president said bring mrs. kennedy down to the reckless, breakfast, and i said i understand, i hope she will. and i explained it to her, and we came down to the breakfast. >> so there you are leading her into this practice and you don't look so happy in this photo. >> no, i was not very pleased. and everyone was thrilled that mrs. kennedy came to the breakfast and she got a standing ovation and everything went very smoothly. and then from there you are heading back to the airport because now you are g

kennedy indicated to me on her schedule she was not going to go to this breakfast. her schedule said on the bottom, jackie will not attend. so we anticipated that should go directly from the hotel to the airport. however, the president noticed that everybody was clamoring to see mrs. kennedy. so when he got down to the breakfast he called the advanced age and over and said, call clint, tell him to bring mrs. kennedy down right now. so i got a phone call from the presidential suite telling me that the president wanted mrs. kennedy down there. tried to explain to me that was not her itinerary. he said, you don't seem to understand. the president said bring mrs. kennedy down to the breakfast. i said i understand. i hope she will. and i explained it to her, and we came down to the breakfast. she was a little miscued, but she made down to the breakfast. >> there you are leading her into this breakfast. you don't look so happy in this photo. >> know. i wasn't very pleased. >> everybody was thrilled that mrs. kennedy came to the breakfast. she got a standing ovation. all the ladies had come to see your especiall