i spoke with npr international correspondent jackie northam who was in islamabad. his period now, what do we know about how the pakistani government and now the taliban government in afghanistan are going to get along, are getting along? >> well, you know, the taliban and the pakistani government or the pakistani military and pakistan intelligence services have had a very long history together. there is some debate here about how much influence pakistan still has on the taliban right now. i spoke to several people in this area who had just actually one had just come back from kabul, he's a journalist. and he said that the taliban, they're seen as proxies in afghanistan right now to be seen as proxies of pakistan and they don't like it. in fact there's something that was a little joke about how they have a made in pakistan tag on their back and they don't like it at all. they want to separate themselves from that. but at the same time, they do have a close relationship. the head of the i.s.i., the intelligence service who was in afghanistan last week meeting with tal