. >> jackie phillips and debra one burger. >> i am a native of san francisco. i was born and raised in the bayview hunters point. i'm am a part of what was called the 9916 program. i was quite blessed to be born and raised here, also to have a job to turn into a career here. now, the question i have for the commissioners and for the public here, do you really believe that the seven applicants every two years for a waste-water facility of that size is acceptable? i don't think so. i do think that the program can use some improvements. that is not the real problem. what we need to do as a community is to speak with the puc and have them understand. as that plan progressives, multimillion-dollar is are being sent there. you are right, millions. that is all fine and well. the problem remains the same. as this facility develops, the program should also. i started in 1982. i was the third class to come through. we started with 10 people. over the years, the program has gone down to 3, 4, 5. now we are at 7. the people are coming through are good candidates. that is n

the last boy you saw is a boy named alex and he's now 15 years old and he and his parents, jackie and phillipn us from oklahoma city and here in the studio, a film maker, lee hirsh is with me. thank you for being here. >> and jackie from oklahoma city, thank you so much for joining us as well. and i want to begin with you, this was not just some professional project you wanted to do artistically, you were a victim. >> yes. >> of bullies when you were growing up. tell us what happened and why this is so personal. >> my bullying was very violent and physical. it was sort of elementary and middle school. i couldn't get home without getting beaten up and kids would wait for me. my dad fought in world war ii and he had an attitude. a good father, but he said toughen up, you'll get through it. kids will be kids and i think i just wanted to give a voice, give a voice it these families, to these kids so there wouldn't be argument is bullying bad, it's violent, it's a rite of passage. i think now we can talk about it. >> yeah, we need to talk about it. i'm telling you, this film is a gut punch to ever