she is with congressman jackie speer. for each of these initial presentations we will provide a 4 min. and the timer will be gone. so ms. ross, thank you for being here >> thank you. 1st of all thank you supervisor winner. i want to thank you for holding this hearing. i think that your argument about the dramatic shift that's going to be taking place in our region is off leash dog licking if it's restricted a spot on. i think that it's incumbent that am speaking for congressman jackie spears, of course, as elected officials and employees within the national park service, we need to recognize that we have an obligation to provide services for all taxpaying americans. this exploiting an opportunity for one group to use one part or another would violate our public chart. there should be significant on barges were sufficient areas, rather to walk their dogs off leash, honest, and to walk with no drugs at all. i find it unacceptable that the preferred alternative provided by the gg nra dog management plan does not provide for

jackie speer. >> mr. chairman, i thank you and the ranking member and i think the inspector general for the care. this is an absolute disgrace. this is stealing money from the american people. it reminds me of a perfect burglary and is a made for tv movie almost. having said that, i am the equally concerned about a number of things. one is trying to take someone's retirement effectively away as has been suggested by the chairman had been discussed by the ranking member, it is something that i would endorse. but i would recommend that what we need to do here is to introduce a private bill to take away the pensions of mr. beale because this bill that we are contemplating is only going to be perspective in nature and i think that this man has to be rocked real justice and i'm concerned about him being in debt to the american people, having ripped them off, do we even know he has assets of equal this? we know that? >> yes, ma'am, he has significant assets, in fact he has already paid back the clerk of the cou