yes, jackson mthembu might have expressed that particular viewpoint.n relation to the matters of corruption, they are not only a matter of concern. the state is intact. the state has actually acted against the corrupt people whether they wear our colours or not, the state has been firm with regard to dealing with corruption, what ideological colour you want, to make us believe, is that we anc members and leaders were implicit in corruption, we protect corruption, whereas that is not the case. we have acted at every turn in relation to matters of corruption as guided by our courts, and where the state organs have had to arrest, including members of the anc, they have acted without any hindrance. i am simply reporting to you the grave concerns of people inside your own party, that is why i call this a crisis for the anc. let me try one more time with you. mathews phosa, former anc treasurer general... hang on a second. he says this, "we are not servants of the people any more in the anc. we have a president and we plead with him to go these days. my plea