when prices were high, he sold a jackson pollack for $140 million and he saw this painting for $137 milliongreat collector, brian, also means knowing when to sell. >> that is right. eli brode, a good guy. the hurst, and i like contemporary art, but they seem like they're fly by night. any sign of that? >> you never know. >> sharks in formaldehyde? >> a lot of the art market is such an insider's game that we never know until 20, 30, 40 years later. >> whatever happened to hurst's skull with all the diamonds on it. >> he bought his own work. >> insider art trading pb what is that? >> that's coming up next. >> tlstz another good tease and a good segment. >> robert frank, a man who has never been de-pickled. >> not yet. >> don't read into that. i've got people here, folks, on your staff, barely wearing clothes right now. let's take a look at the dow jones industrial average, if you can. we made a roaring comeback. we were down triple digits just a couple of hours ago. the dow now -- it's not up big, but it is up. the nasdaq and s&p are all higher, as our "street signs" mottos go, everything's f

conservative looking man standing there with his -- even then, dated hat and company, look at the faux jackson pollack. it's abstract. he treats it he's respectfully. it's done fairly nicely. he treats the conservative man respectfully. he doesn't show us the face. there's an amazing interplay of in a museum of one type of sensibility versus another. >> where do you live now? >> brooklyn. >> how many children do you have? >> four. >> four. >> what age? >> various ages. i have to admit i have inherited from my marriage. two from my own loins. 16-year-old, 28-year-old, 24-year-old, 27-year-old. >> what does your husband do? >> he was in the entertainment industry. he's now with an israeli high-tech company. it's american station in new york city. >> do you have another book in mind? >> i do. >> i can't tell you. >> why not? >> i want to make 100% sure that it's the one i should do. >> is it a biography? >> it is a biography, but i'm trying to think of an exciting new way to take the idea of a biography, not as with dutch, but expand it in to being about something else as well. how is that for oblique? >