i advocate the extension of pntr and the repeal of jackson vanic. but i think at the same time, it would be important for the administration to come forward to the congress with a plan for addressing some of the issues you just raised, some of the issues i raised and my testimony about the investment relationship. and some of the issues that we all have with the corruption environment. and to present to the congress and to the congress to have a process for holding accountable the administration and making progress to address these issues. this would be a path going forward that would have us working together between the congress and the administration and russia to strengthen the rule of law. it wouldn't interfere. i'm not talking, mr. chairman, about a conditional extension of pntr. i'm saying let's tackle off of these problems right now. as we tackle immediately the pntr issue. >> glad you made that very clear it would not be conditional. i think that's a very important point you just made to not be conditional. you'd like the united states as we

the 1974 jackson vanic law links u.s. trade with russia to the country's human rights record. certify that russia allows its citizens to leave the country. the cold war erdesied to push mw russian jews to emigrate to israel. the senate foreign relations cote hearing on the law and whether it should be repealed. this is 1:45. >> catherine the great once said there is nothing so difficult as to escape from that which is essentially agreeable. russian joining the world trade organization represents a lucrative opportunity for united states economy and american jobs. we can all agree on that. we must also embrace rather tha. russia is the largest economy currently outside the wto. it's the sixth largest economy in the world. to allow american businesses, workers, farmers and ranchers to seize the opportunity that russia joining the wto represents, congress must act. we must pass permanent normal trade relations to ensure our exporters can access the growing russian market. u.s. exports to russia are expected to double within five years. if congress doesn't pass pntr, russia will j

jackson vanic served its purpose and helped millions of jews emigrate freely, but it is now a relic of the past. every president, regardless of the party, has waived the requirements for russia for the past 20 years. when i traveled to russia last month, i met with russian and american business leaders, including ron pollett, who is also here with us today. i also met with leaders of the jewish community. the message for all of these activists was clear. the united states should repeal jackson vannic and pass russia pntr.

. >> because jackson vanic. we ought to do the things we say we're going to do. jackson is about immigration. every president signed off since it went into effect in 1974 that they are dealing with immigration. that's happened and happening. so ewith send the terrible message as we try to negotiate with people when we kind of pull things out and misapply them and counterapply them. we don't have any protection under the bilateral agreement, do we? on intellectual property rights? i think mr. williams spoke to that. and the dispute process at w.t.o. at least gives us that kind of protection, doesn't it, mr. williams? >> well, in china, w.t.o. didn't exactly solve all our problems. to give the specific example in 2001 china was admitted to w.t.o. and in 2009 they established a rate for music and televippings and accidentally it was a tiny rate and they paid us for that year and that year only. so as i listen to you talk about the human rights issues and all these elements. i reaccident, you make amazing sense. and i understand that, but for my organization, we're lo