i'm joined down the line by jacob aledort , director line by jacob aledort, director of research at theinstitute for national security of america and a man who formerly worked for vice president pence . uh, jacob, on president pence. uh, jacob, on my first good evening. welcome to the program . i'm on my first to the program. i'm on my first point. on my first point. you know, we hear nothing on this side of the pond and not much more on your side of the pond. this did strike me as kamala harris getting political. perhaps with a little hint of ambition. >> well, good evening , ambition. >> well, good evening, nigel, and thank you so much for having me on your program. it's a pleasure to be with you and your viewers. i viewers. um. you're right. i mean, haven't heard much from mean, we haven't heard much from the on sunday, the vice president on sunday, she opened her speech in, uh, in alabama, mentioning talking about gaza, talking about the humanitarian there, humanitarian situation there, the her quote is the full part of her quote is that, you know, hamas claims that, you know, hamas