wolfe, and jacob bernstein. i am pleased to have them here at this table. i have a question, does that come from nora's conversation with her mother on her death bed? >> yeah, indeed. her mother always said, you know, use it-- when her mother was on her death bed, she said to her, "take notes, "and my mother did and my mother wrote a piece called "the mink coat" which i believe was in "esquire wal"about mourning, and about hw her mother had become not exactly a role model for her. but know. >> rose: but said "take notes. upon. >> take notes. she did. >> rose: so how does this start? i mean, noramented to do something about mike, who she didn't really know. >> she read his oof obituary. >> she read the obituary. >> and said this is a story i need to tell. >> rose: but was going to be it as an hbo thing. >> she was going to do it as an hbo piece. and she did not waste time it. the only reason it took as long as it did to gestate, it was very hard to figure out how to make it work as a movie because the characters broke through the fourth wall, and now, obviou