jacob brown, a few other officers, the scot is most part. they become very much -- their agenda is very much to build a proper professional institution and to take expertise, usually european country usually french ingredient to the united states. another major figure would be savanna fare who sent on a mission to collect information about military education. he collects huge numbers of books and material comes back to west point and with the support of people like scott becomes a prominent general to the war of 1812. he's able to systematize the curriculum in a way that had them in case before. >> host: when was west point? >> guest: 1802. but i think historians still argue about what thomas jefferson was really after when the school was founded. but no one disagrees the school is institutionally weak. it's unclear what the purpose of the institution is. there's not destruction