it's jacob chansley.e became the poster boy of the mostly peaceful protest on capitol hill despite not having engaged in any violence himself. he was just released from prison. >> so what's he up to now? when we talk exclusive with his attorney ? >> coming up next, on this program, is brought to you by lumpur's it's good medicine for back pain. >> i've always been a take two and call in the morning guy ,but my new doctor recommended solong pass without another pill, upsetting my stomach. i get powerful, effective and safe relief. selon. >> it's good medicine for me to meet caring and sharing. they started the apparel company for women who ride when business took off. they needed a loan. smart business loans, .com founded a bank which got them an sba loan with a great rate about smartphone's. >> we probably wouldn't have gotten a loan. apply it. smart business loans, .com. when you're the leader in disaster cleanup and restoration, how do you make like it never even happened? happened. yeah, yeah. i've bee

joining us now exclusively is bill shipley, attorney for jacob chansley. , when was the last time you spoke to jacob and how's he doing? >> about 45 minutes ago on the phone. he's doing great. it's my third conversation with him since he was released, and we just sort of sorting through his adjustment and what we're going to do next. >> pete: i mean 11 months in solitary confinement. what has he told you about his treatment? >> well, that was, you know, according to the facility that detained him in alexandria, virginia, that was in effect for his own protection according to them. they needed to segregate him away from the general population because of his, you know, celebrity and the controversy surrounding him in the aftermath of his arrest and the iconic images of him that were all over the media. so they held him away from the rest of the population just so that, you know, he might not be hurt by somebody who might be out to hurt him. >> pete: and, bill, what's his disposition? does he want to tell his story? i mean, he has been such a front and center

jacob chansley is not a criminal. jacob chansley is a political prisoner. l prisoner.s and unfortunately tonight he remains one .e bide the bush administration is demanding that chances serve another six months in a halfway house just to make sure his sno lifether is destroyed. hous let's hope that when he finally gets out, he has the energy to sue liz cheney of uva for the crime she committed against him and against our justice system. meanwhile, in nashville yesterday, there was an actual insurrection when you may not storm eard about act screaming . >> rioters stormed the tennessee state capitol . watch the at one point, these rioters mocked the six the 6 christians, including three children who were just murdered this week christian bys terrorist in tennessee. they held up seven fingers for seven victims, meaning the killer, in their view, washn one of the victims. >> watch fingers. every death >> every death is a tragedy on seven lives. at i'd say there were seven . jacob hensley was escorted by police officers in the in the capital . here we have tran

the tapes show the capitol police never stopped jacob chansley. they helped him.is tour guides. >> stephen: okay, but the capitol police said that their officer only did that in order to "de-escalate" the situation because the officer was outnumbered. evidently, tucker carlson has never seen a hostage negotiation. "no one was scared of the man in the bomb vest. in fact, officials were saying they would give him whatever he wants. they ordered him pizza and gave him a million dollars and a helicopter ride to the location of his choice. is that really how you treat an enemy?" tucker also took issue with the footage from the january 6th committee that showed senator josh hawley hawley-ing ass. according to tucker, that footage is deceptive. >> the actual videotape shows that hawley was one of many lawmakers being ushered out of the building by capitol hill police officers. and in fact, hawley was at the back of the pack. >> stephen: i stand corrected. josh hawley is not just some hypocritical coward. he's a hypocritical coward who runs slower than 70-year-olds. and m

his time inside the capitol was caught on tape the tapes show that capitol police never stopped jacob chansleyey helped him. whatever happened to brian sicknick was very obviously not the result of violence he suffered at the entrance to the capitol. >> my question for you, nick, is kevin mccarthy famously gave tens of thousands of hours of security footage to tucker carlson shortly after becoming speaker. do we know where that security footage is today do we know if tucker took it with him >> i know, that's a great question i mean look, it was a sign of carlson's power he was able to basically force mccarthy to pledge to release those tapes as a condition of becoming speaker. i think his ouster is more the surprising because the story of tucker carlson over the years has been one where he has withstood controversy ore controversy. he has been talking down january 6th and reframing it as a good movement of innocent people for a year, a year and a half. he has been, you know, saying controversial things about women, minorities, immigrants for years and years, sometimes very racist things he has