he will be joined by jacob gerson from harvard moscow producer director and founder of the food laws lab at harvard law school and he has work on a book called from court to table. this conversation will be moderated by michael gerhardt. michael is her new visiting scholar here at the national constitution center. he is a superb presidential historian. you may have seen them last year discusses great book on the forgotten president. he is one of the most thoughtful constitutional commentators in the country and i'm so thrilled to have him at my side to oversee all of this